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[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Is everyone just now learning terrorism means political violence?

[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Then why doesnt the FBI consider people who blow up or set fire to abortion clinics terrorism?

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago
[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abortion-clinic-violence-terrorism

"While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has maintained that these actions are not terrorism, this article suggests that there is a correspondence between incidents perpetrated between 1982 and 1987 and standards classifications of "limited political" or "subrevolutionary" terrorism. Perhaps the FBI has declined to accept the terrorism definition because of its preoccupation with international events which are seen in terms of administrative or jurisdictional definitions."

That's from 1988.

From 1977 to 1988, an epidemic of antiabortion violence took place in the United States, involving 110 cases of arson, firebombing, or bombing. The epidemic peaked in 1984, when there were 29 attacks. Nearly all sites (98%) were clinics that provided abortions. The FBI still says that those were not acts of terrorism.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1957842/

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 11 points 17 hours ago

I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

This country was founded by terrorists.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 21 hours ago

They want to make Luigi an example. "Don't do what he did, he's being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don't wanna be a terrorist do you?"

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 20 points 18 hours ago

... and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

I misread that as golem heart.

[-] hexadence@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

It's not that what Dylan Roof did wasn't terrorism, it's that he wasn't in New York state. Same with that case involving Trump and property values, never would have been charged in Montana for that, everyone knows assessed value and real value are two different things.

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 83 points 1 day ago

It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn't really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn't ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

🎶 Because it's about class and not about justice. 🎶

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

For what it's worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I'm not saying it's always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago

They are terrified. He did terrorize their class. So maybe just maybe being a terrorist isn’t bad, it depends on who you terrorize?

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male.. but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago

Do you actually have a point? Innocent children slain: bad. Evil leech that has a large part in oppressing us - maybe not so bad.

Do you really think the dude being white has anything to do with it? Pretty sure "CEO of health insurance company" is a sufficient descriptor and race has nothing to do with it

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 0 points 11 hours ago
[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Seems like most Americans are pro Luigi, but the government isn’t

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

The government and their bosses

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Congratulations on the stupidest take in the entire comment section.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

The kids were already born, they don't give a shit about them after that

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago

The only difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is your point of view.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago

Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to "terrorism" is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor's face.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let's hope. But as we all know truth is financially dictated in our "justice" system, so it is a gamble.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 83 points 1 day ago
[-] wpb@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn't be doing this

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 68 points 1 day ago

For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren't the only elections.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

[-] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago

That's on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It's essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying "you should feel like this".

[-] Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 120 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

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[-] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Rumor has it, if you say, "deny, defend, depose" in your phone 3 times, you'll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you're an American citizen or else it's off to Guantanamo bay for you.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they're suspected of terrorism. That's why everything is "terrorism" these days, because under that accusation they'll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It's tyranny.

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