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Summary

Mass graves uncovered in Syria after Bashar al-Assad’s overthrow reveal evidence of systematic atrocities, with over 100,000 people tortured and killed in what a top war crimes prosecutor described as the worst abuses “since the Nazis.”

Assad’s regime operated a “machinery of death,” involving mass disappearances, torture, and secret burials.

Rebel forces freed thousands of political prisoners, but many remain missing.

International efforts aim to document war crimes, though Assad, now in Russia, is unlikely to face trial.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 101 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Really? Nothing else since WWII has been this bad? I can think of three off the top of my head! Syria's neighbor is doing a holocaust right now. It's like they're pretending that nothing bad has happened since the Nazis were defeated.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 93 points 3 weeks ago

There are 100.000 bodies in a single mass grave. And that is just one out of five. That's kinda in a league of its own.

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[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with your point but I think the Palestinian genocide is a bad example. Imo better examples from the top of my mind: the Rwandan and Cambodian genocides likely were far worse both in absolute numbers and as a % of the population, and the policies of Maoist China got many more people killed.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

Man, Mao's policies got so many people killed that "only" 3-4m people died of famine.

He's got an incredible kill count.

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[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 weeks ago

You mean the country that is claiming Syrian sovereign space like the Golan Heights for their illegal settlements since the 90s?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

And currently stealing even more land!

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 weeks ago

Well, now Syria is weakened from the revolution. That is the best time to go and steal some land!

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, nothing.

No one here is claiming what Israel is doing isn't horrible (hell, you're the only one bringing it up). But, this is worse. Wild how there can be more than one bad thing and one being worse doesn't make the other one not bad, isn't it?

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't argue with a .ml user when they move the goalposts to be "America bad" without any context. It's a losing battle.

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[-] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 16 points 3 weeks ago

The Cambodian Genocide

The Cambodian genocide was the systematic persecution and killing of Cambodian citizens by the Khmer Rouge under the leadership of Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea, Pol Pot. It resulted in the deaths of 1.5 to 2 million people from 1975 to 1979, nearly 25% of Cambodia's population in 1975 (c. 7.8 million) reducing the nation's life expectancy to a staggering 12 years in 1975.

[-] Reyali@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You’re angry about a headline that abbreviates the actual story.

The very first paragraph of the article:

Mass graves uncovered in Syria in the days since President Bashar al-Assad wasoverthrown are exposing evidence of some of the worst abuses since the Nazis, a top international war crimes prosecutor said. [emphasis mine]

The article agrees with you. It’s only the headline that doesn’t.

This kind of anger and engagement at headlines is exactly what the media thrives off of. Don’t let them win by doing just that.

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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

The Russians never stopped doing such things. Before, during and after WW2.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

How "whatabout" that.

Stop trying to shove this news under the carpet with your "I know worse but I won't tell you!!1!"

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[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's going to take some time (and digging) to find out.

However... events that unfolded in Cambodia will almost certainly have exceeded what is going to be discovered in Syria.

Most likely the same can be said about things that happened in Indonesia.

Events that continue to happen in North Korea may possibly exceed - once the place collapses and access becomes possible - which may take a century - what Bashar and his father managed to organize.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

Israel hasn't killed over 100,000 yet. Gaza is a lot smaller than Syria or Europe.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The official toll isn't over 100,000 (can't count people under the rubble) but estimates put it over 100,000 i.e. same order of magnitude. Gaza being smaller just makes these estimates even more horrifying.

But also, not just talking about Gaza. Lots of other atrocities have lead to mass death on this scale and larger.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think we need to play Topp Trumps Genocide Edition. Can we just agree that it's horrific what Assad (and by extension, Putin) have been doing in Syria?

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[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I really hope that there can be some sort of coalition for peace and recovery among the various Syrian forces now that Assad is out of power.

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Have they been in a prison where they were regularly and systematically tortured, and that for decades, before they ended up in those bags?

Not even a fucking month has passed and people with .ml accounts are already trivialising Assad. Tankies gotta stick to their own, I guess.

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