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World GDP: $105.4 trillion USD

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 2 months ago

Does it have to be diamonds? Could we maybe use the ashes of billionaires instead?

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Human ashes are mostly carbon, so yes, of course. We'll run out of billionaires pretty quickly, though.

[-] vikingr@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Sounds like a win-win tbh

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Let's give it a trial run with a few thousand then we can measure the impact and reevaluate.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That’s a problem that solves it self

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

We’ll just have to try and find out.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Isn't diamond manufactured in labs in 15 minutes now? I think the price is using natural diamonds value

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

Of all the aerosols they could think about!

No chance at all of a basically indestructible material not being destructed if absorbed by lungs (or gills) and leading to some disease. You don't need to check. There's no way this could go wrong.

Or, rather... I believe lead is cheaper... Given how much people like to use it, maybe it's a better option.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

I was thinking asbestos...

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Whatever you do, don’t look up silicosis. Not a problem at all. Not relevant.

[-] pedro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We're carbon based lifeforms and diamonds, yep, made of carbon. What could possibly go wrong!? /s

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Diamond Lung.

Sounds posh.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

They got a headline. Mission achieved.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Yes, let's just have everyone on Earth breathe in diamond dust all day every day. There's no way that could be bad for our health.

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

There's never been a case of something having different behavior or health effects just because of a tiny chemical difference (trans fat) or size difference (micro plastics), what's the worst that could happen?

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

There have never been lung issues caused by inhaling very small dust particles, right?

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

just wear masks for a few decades, potentially respirators, and probably add whole house air filtration if you want to take it off at night.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That amount sounds like total bullshit. Diamonds can be manufactured and once that is done at scale, it won't be all that expensive. Even at $10000 a ton, five million tonnes would cost just 50 billion.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 2 months ago

These are not good ideas. Remember that global warming is just an overarching effect of pollution which we will still have. What diamond dust pollution effects will be, no one knows, but I doubt we want to find out.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The fossil fuel oligarchy would prefer to give all mammals on Earth emphysema than stop burning fossils, and do it for 10x the price.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 2 months ago

That number is for doing it anually for 65 years. It lists roughly 18 billion per year for the cost.

But besides that, I think you are greatly underestimating the cost of the diamonds. Synthetic ones are way cheaper than natural ones, yes, but there's a lot of room between "natural diamond expensive" and "actually cheap". Going by these prices https://www.diamondtech.com/products/categories/diamond_powder_price_list.html

It's $2.5 million per tonne. I assume you could get a cheaper price per weight if you're buying five million tonnes of anything, but it's still two orders of magnitude more expensive than you are guessing

[-] jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Firstly, it’s 5 million tonnes per year. For 65 years. Secondly, the cost is for a 65 year SAI program, including developing the tech and running the missions. Thirdly, this is all explained in TFA or the links therein.

[-] BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

$10000/ton is $5/lb from a quick google search they are about $250/lb for industrial diamonds. So 50* 50 or 2500 billion or 2.5 trillion with no idea if they can use run of the mill industrial diamonds or if there will be additional processing to get them into the aerosolized form also how are you going to launch them, and for how many years would we need to do it

[-] pageflight@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So what would it cost to replace all fossil fuel energy with renewable?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

You are missing the point, because we need to do that anyway.
The idea is to prevent things from getting worse in the meantime.
Replacing fossil fuels take time no matter how much we invest.

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

ok but you just know corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels. like to them this is basically carte blanche to keep the status quo and block green energy from happening even harder. "oh hurdur har har we found a solution to climate change and it's dumping diamonds in the atmosphere, no need to pay for green energy anymore haha" type shit

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels.

Corporations follow the law, the only way to solove this is to have the laws required.

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago

The artificially-inflated price of the diamonds should be irrelevant in this calculation.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

Nice try, DeBeers.

[-] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

It's not cost effective to save humanity. Stock prices would crash.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Amazing. Instead of just.. fighting climate change by not polluting the planet let's just fill our entire atmosphere with diamond dust, because that's the logical decision of course.

[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Sweet! Four more years of Trump presidency, and Elon Musk can just pay for it out of pocket.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Elon musk's kids should be made an example of when reclamation comes around.

They're being brought up thinking they can live like gods. How unfortunate would it be if they actually had to live like the rest of us...

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Just force debeers to open their vault. The cost would drop.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Isn't this kind of thing the premise for all those "snowball Earth" sci Fi stories where global cooling went too far

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Break into the diamond company vaults and just take it. Bam, free diamonds.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

This is garbage.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

The silicosis will run rampant

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What the diamond version of silicosis?

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[-] marcolo@poliverso.org 2 points 2 months ago

@FlyingSquid
"Scientists say..."
All of them, are you sure?
Geoengineering schemes are not agreed upon by many scientists. There are several types of geoengineering "solutions" and no agreement on any, just suggestions.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't get it, why wouldn't sapphire dust work? Isn't that dirt cheap to make? And it's carbon free!
Seems illogical to add carbon in the form of diamond, to a problem that is mostly caused by carbon?

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

The carbon isn't the problem, it's the CO2 molecule. I would be really curious if solid carbon in diamond form is able to react with ozone in the atmosphere to make CO2, or if it would be inert, or if it would do something else.

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

No reactions, just reflections. The premise is "bounce the heat before it can be trapped."

The main reason they looked at diamond this time is because it's very clump resistant, which is a positive for heat deflection.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's also Methane and CO, gasses that also contain carbon. I know diamond is pretty stable, but it does burn, and then it creates the gasses we try to avoid.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

CO is not a significant greenhouse gas. (And N20 is..)

Are diamond particulates likely to burn if they're dispersed in the atmosphere?

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[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Isn't this very similar to the annuki and the Sumerian history. Where these aliens came to earth to mine gold to take it back to their planet and use it to save their atmosphere.

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