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They probably don't think it's unfortunate.
It's unFORTUNatE because they aren't currently making a fortune from it.
Yes the land should be protected, just as any other forest in the world. The important thing now is to give me an explanation for the holes, you cannot just bring mysterious holes without anymore explanation! Someone has to dig deeper and find an explanation!
Does a man need a reason to dig a big hole? Some men collect pervy plastic dolls, some collect holes. That's all.
...Some men collect pervy plastic dolls, some collect holes.
Redundant.
Imagine being the last member of your tribe and unable to connect with any other member of your species. The sexual frustration. It really is the same and collecting sexy dolls.
you cannot just bring mysterious holes without anymore explanation! Someone has to dig deeper and find an explanation!
This winds up with things like the Oak Island mystery.
Same exact thought! They say they may be religious, but I need to know more!! Guess that lore may be lost with the end of this tribe.
Seems to me they're using the sanctity of indigenous people as a way to protect the rain forest. Wish it being a very important natural part of our planet was enough to protect it, no appeal to human to human empathy needed.
It's a multifaceted problem.
First, we need to protect forests for the environment and for our survival and health as a species.
Second, we need to protect the lives of other indigenous peoples. Without land protection regardless of the tribe still existing, there's a perverse incentive for genocide to free up the land.
And finally, we need to prevent multi-national mega corps from gobbling up more land and power.
All these points are important. There's no need to use fake excuses to push for government protection.
Also very often overlooked: the Amazonas as we know it today is NOT wild in any way. It is a cultural landscape that started around the time when humans settled that area but not later than 11tya
[…] large portions of the Amazon rainforest are probably the result of centuries of human management, rather than naturally occurring as has previously been supposed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_rainforest#cite_ref-24
Same with Indigenous Hawaiians, First Nations people in areas of Canada, Mayan people in south-central America, etc ...all of whom manipulated the land and waterways to grow a variety of food/medicinal plants closeby.
The sanctity of a lack of indigenous people. Everywhere in the Americas was indigenous territory once, so I don't see why this land is any different from all the rest. On the contrary, other land might still have a tribe with a historical claim to it, whereas this land clearly doesn't.
But yeah, a circuitous path to protecting rainforest...
He also dug large, mysterious holes inside his homes.
I am guessing they didn't actually see what he was doing with them, but holes are a pretty good way to preserve food for as long as possible in a pre-refrigeration culture. Especially in a rainforest. That would be my first guess.
It's wonderful that just existing (and not even being conscious or care about it) is enough indirect motivation to live. Something we forgot long ago.
Kind of a similar sentiment is that every human in a community is accepted as valuable, simply because they are human.
We forgot that simplicity when we moved from hunter-gatherer to farming and land ownership.
Interestingly enough (at least to me), his ancestors very possibly went back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle from farming because there were large, settled Amazonian societies which collapsed.
There is also a small amount of documented evidence of a lot of settled farming societies along the Amazon river soon after European contact, but they were probably all killed off by disease rather quickly, or at least enough for the survivors to abandon the farms and enter the interior and become hunter-gatherers like their ancestors were thousands of years before. Those accounts were dismissed for a very long time because the rainforest took over so quickly that any evidence of those cultures were gone by the time Europeans did any real exploration.
There's also this idea that maybe the Amazon was a food forest, like many places in the Americas
It's not a regression, it's an objectively better form of farming. Instead of cultivating the land, you cultivate the ecosystem. You plant the things you want frequently and cull the plants you don't like over generations, and you have food everywhere all the time. The extra food supports critters and prey animals, giving you easy hunting. It's a minimal work high reward farming style
The downside is you don't get a lot of easily stored crops you need for cities and armies. And so you see both side by side - for example, the Inca would farm potatoes as taxes, which would be stored for traveling armies or disasters and sent back to the capital to support their higher population density
Well there's no question they did soil management and the early Europeans who were later ignored talked about orchards, so they definitely did some sort of organized farming, so I think maybe some of it was just forest, but a lot of it was also organized agriculture.
Yep, owning implies so many things
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