Tencent says it's not a Chinese military company and is willing to sue the US Department of Defense if it isn't removed from a blacklist (www.pcgamer.com)

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[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Here's a list of websites China bans:

Google
YouTube
Facebook
Yahoo
Wikipedia
Marxists Internet Archive
Reddit
Fandom
Netflix
Zoom
Blogspot
Bing
Instagram
WhatsApp
Twitch
Roblox
Steam Store
Steam Community
Spotify
Messenger
X
LinkedIn
Skype
Tumblr
Pinterest
SoundCloud
Signal Private Messenger
Dropbox
Pornhub
XVideos
Medium
Dailymotion
BBC
The New York Times
Vimeo
The Guardian
SlideShare
Discord
DeviantArt
The Washington Post
Nico Video
Archive.org (Internet Archive)
Bloomberg
Flickr
Wretch
HuffPost
The Wall Street Journal
DuckDuckGo
Scratch
Reuters
NBC News -TIME
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)
Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
Bandcamp
Technorati
Archive of Our Own
Viber
South China Morning Post
Plurk
The Economist
ABC
Voice of America
Radio Free Asia
NBC
PBworks
The Epoch Times
The Epoch Times (Chinese edition)
HBO
WION
Hong Kong Free Press
Apple Daily
TikTok
ChatGPT
Rockstar Games
GitHub
Hugging Face
Flipkart
Zomato
Clubhouse
Swiggy
Truth Social
National Weather Service
Kanzhongguo (English)
Kanzhongguo (Chinese)
Microsoft Copilot
Telegram
Voice of America (Chinese)
Teacher Li Is Not Your Teacher (by a famous anti-CCP Twitter poster)

[-] Xyii@fasheng.ing 0 points 3 weeks ago

The list is not entirely correct.

From china

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Change it on wikipedia!

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[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago

Fair point, but that means the ban should be coming from Department of Commerce, not the DoD.

Don't try to come up with bullshit excuses about espionage.

"We're banning these private-business Chinese websites because China bans our private-business websites and that's anti-competitive".

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[-] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

We should have done the same

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Hard disagree, censorship is not welcome in a free society. I dislike a number of those sites and haven't heard of most of the rest, but I wouldn't ban a single one.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Good luck dealing with the current far-right inthe government in the US and soon in the EU countries though

[-] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Censoring the far-right doesn't make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

The solution is not censorship, but to understand what is causing the rise in right wing radicalism and address the root cause.

That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class. When people are scared and angry, they will turn to those who give them simple solutions and an easy scapegoat. It's a tale as old as time.

You can try and censor all you want, it won't ultimately make a difference.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Censoring the far-right doesn't make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

I beg to differ. The situation was MUCH better in this regard in Western Europe 15-20 years ago when being openly far-right would get you socially ostracized for the most part, and media didn't routinely bring far-right mouthpieces on national TV.

That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class

I do agree with that though, that's why I'm a commie who wants economic security for everyone (i.e. guaranteed employment and housing) and strong and trustworthy institutions (such as powerful, free and public healthcare and education and pensions, and the end of austerity)

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Keep it a note that having them listed as a Chinese military company could let US put pressure against open source groups to not collaborate with them; very similar to how US forced Linux Foundation to kick off decade old russian collaborators.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's a bad mischaracterization. You cannot force someone to do something voluntarily . Torvald spoke in support of it. I'm sure many governments and groups using the Linux kernel and open source want Developers that are vetted. Or can be reasonably sure won't be forced to act maliciously under duress.

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

It is not a mischaracterization though. Open source projects can be forced to stop accepting contributions from employees of sanctioned companies, which would include Tencent employees if sanctioned. Anyways, Tencent is not being sanctioned here, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

Also, Linus was definitely forced to kick the Russian maintainers out by USA sanctions.

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

You cannot force someone to do something voluntarily

Instantly disregarded. Completely boneheaded thing to say.

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[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Every fucking Chinese company is required to be an arm of their government and provide them with any information they request. It's not even a question, they are an arm of the Chinese government. They can get fucked

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Same goes for US companies.

Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Edit: For people who think I mean "party" like US political parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-party_state#Current_one-party_states

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

Why is this on a different level? Is it because they're ASIANS?

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

One government is actively committing genocide against subsets of their population I’d say it’s a pretty big fucking difference.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Uht oh. Brace yourself for leftists. Prepare to be deemed genocide supporter nazi extraordinaire.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Of course it’s not a military company, it’s an espionage company.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

There is a reason why chinaman kicked out google and facebook from his market...

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature, dude.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago

giving you the benefit of the doubt like maybe english isn’t your first language, that word is considered a pejorative/slur in all modern usage

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Sues. Lawyers do discovery. Tencent refuses. Court fines Tencent in contempt, rules in favor of the government. Tencent tries to bribe Trump with something.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

...Trump announces he made a peace deal with China

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with the US DoD. The large Chinese corporations are owned by CCP members and former PLA officers. Contain them until the PRC implodes.

[-] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Given the way things are going, the US will implode long before China does.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

almost as if it's never been about security but about sinophobia

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