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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[-] Jonnynny@lemm.ee 15 points 3 hours ago

I am dissapointed that my VPN is getting involved in US politics. This is not something I want for this kind of service. I dont want to debate US politics here. That being said, I cancelled my annual autorenew for April and I would like some recommendations. Originally I was deciding between Mulvad and Proton. I've also seen some people in this thread using Tuta? I am in Europe and just want a service that prioritizes anonyminity and data protection. I don't know how the dust will settle on all this Proton stuff. What would you all recommend for a provider?

[-] zmrl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

I've used mullvad before and it was a great experience. As far as anonymity goes, I don't think you can do any better than mullvad where you even have privacy friendly payment options. That said, I haven't used proton VPN so I'm not sure how they compare feature-wise

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

So apparently mullvad and windscribe are the best ones people use.

And I am using windscribe no problem.

It is however not as good integrated in Linux as nordvpn. But it's a lot cheaper.

[-] R3dP1ll@sh.itjust.works 0 points 44 minutes ago

Wtf Proton is same of Zuckerberg & Musk !!! Which mail could we use now ? Where the hell is the world going ? Could we have an Europe Elon Free, an Europe Zuck Free, and Swiss Proton Free...?!

[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Self hosting is better these days.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 56 minutes ago

How exactly does one self host a worldwide network of proxy servers?

[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 1 points 49 minutes ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 41 minutes ago

But does this only create one node, or does it create dozens of them in each country?

Because I use a VPN so I can have anonymous exit nodes in whatever country I want. Happy to be corrected, but I don't think that's self-hostable.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 29 points 9 hours ago
[-] vale@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

good thing too, because the page is now deleted

[-] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 9 hours ago

They're is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

He rarely writes any of his tweets. They're dictated to staff

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

I doubt very much his dictation sounded anything like that tweet. There may have been five or ten words in common.

[-] thefatfrog@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

My dear friend, what is happening over here: “They are is no way…”?

[-] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 hours ago

Really disappointing. Never imagined this from Proton. Truly dead to me now.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

Lmao, proton looked sus to me for a long time. Good I never felt for anything more than their email.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago
[-] Shou@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Exactly. I just switched to proton mail this week.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 47 points 11 hours ago

So Proton is out.

Sorry, I won't trust a service that licks fascist boots.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Regrading Update 2, maybe the other board members can push his guy out? I'm paid for to the end of the year, so I'll wait it out a bit. I'd rather not jump ship, only to have that ship also go pro fascist too.

[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 hours ago

I thought they are based in Switzerland

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

They are, but US antitrust/monopolies affect the market worldwide. In https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2022/12/27/andy-yen-ceo-of-proton-on-the-tech-giants-that-dominate-the-internet-the-webs-future-and-bitcoin/ the same guy discusses the issue in more details.

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