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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Well hey, one of the reasons one might stop a genocide is because it’s been accomplished. So they may end up being technically correct on the first part.

[-] fxomt@lemm.ee 21 points 14 hours ago

Trump stops the genocide

OOP must have been fucking zooted out of his mind, no sensible Arab or person in general believes trump is going to solve anything; in fact, he will make everything so much worse.

At this point, i wish the best for our brothers and sisters in Palestine, and i hope they live to see the end of the genocide. It's a lose-lose situation for them either way, but one way is clearly worse.

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

He's more likely to finish the genocide rather than stop it.

[-] fxomt@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I'm also very concerned about Sudan and Syria, too. The democrats were always shit like all politicians and political parties; but republicans are very up front on what they want to do to us.

jfc, i don't know who i hate more: democrats who want to keep funding israel, or pro palestinians voting for trump. Either way, the death will continue.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Tankies and trump supporters:

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

regressive fascist fuckface supporters and tankies all along:

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 14 hours ago

The fact that some people voted for a basically open fascist because of something happening outside of their country is fucking wild

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

I just hate when they say one imperialist colonizer is bad (Israel) yet another good (Russia). Fucking hypocrites don't actually care about the suffering - just the political wedge they can use.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I haven't ever even broached Tibet because I don't think I could stomach witnessing the ensuing trainwreck of logic.

It's just so incredibly intellectually disingenuous. I got in it with one at one point (big mistake on my part) saying that no country or system is perfect, and a meaningful indicator evidencing critical thought is the capacity to criticize your own system. What, in their mind, were the top issues with China?

  1. Too much freedom in the market.
  2. Doesn't project it's system outside it's border enough.

Ok. I'm talking to a rational actor. Lol.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 48 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It's so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, it's almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.

Ok, I'll shut up now, I wouldn't want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 64 points 20 hours ago

So they’re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 37 points 20 hours ago

Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 19 hours ago
[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 23 points 18 hours ago

Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 52 points 20 hours ago

I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, it's not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

While true, I'm over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now I'm woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 62 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Does it count as ending the genocide if he helps Israel kill all the remaining Palestinians so there are none left to genocide? 🤔

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 22 points 20 hours ago

Well, it ended, didn't it?

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

This fits the bill with the actual bad faith arguments that tankies make constantly.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

...are we counting "no Palestinians left" as the end of the genocide? 😬

Suppose trump was actually the one to negotiate a cease fire with Palestinians and Isreal. That can only be considered in hindsight and would not change the harm reduction calculation. Notice how no one was arguing that trump would actually be the one to end the fighting in Gaza?

Right.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago
[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

Sometimes you're happy to be proven wrong

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[-] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

One can hope.

Other than hoping, I am donating a few bucks to the most pro-Palestinian politicians.

I have been looking for protests but they are hard to learn about.

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