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Confirmed by AP news here (go directly to slide 4 in the slideshow for more information)

For those who don’t want to click the link:

And here is info on the “1st Ukrainian Division”

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 123 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:

Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to "fight Bolsheviks". The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.

Good thing there's no link between anti communism and fascism

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 85 points 1 year ago

Yes he took the oath of allegiance to the head nazi, but how do we know he was actually a nazi and not just a brave freedom fighter?

[-] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago

In the 50s and 60s, the easiest way to gain entry into Canada for immigration was to show a Nazi tattoo. This proved one was ideologically anti-communist and thus safe.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

had me in the first half

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Formed in 1943, it was largely destroyed in the battle of Brody

Completely unsurprising lmfao. The majority of SS volunteer formations absolutely sucked in combat, exceptions being for example "Nordland" but their actions were completely reckless and suicidal, achieving nothing in return. "Galizien" was among the terrible ones, units like these were good in nothing else than "anti partisan activities", and that often means pure war crimes -- hanging suspected partisans, surrendered partisans or general combat with irregular units, where the Germans conducted their war with no rules whatsoever. But when the time to face the actual Red Army came, these units were almost always utterly swept aside by the Soviets. After a good few days of intense beatings, their remnants would pull back and reorganize far from the front, where they resumed "anti partisan activities". "Galizien" took part in supressing the Slovak National Uprising, which they did by massacring civilians.

Also being volunteer formations make every single soldier absolutely guilty of every terrible action their units did, if some soldiers were forced into service there might be an argument, but there isn't, because each one of these fucks knew what they were doing. I am glad the Red Army brought ultimate justice to these pieces of shit, althrough this one might have slipped away.

And he slipped away to Canada like a fucking rat. And years later, Canada would give this fuck a standing ovation. Canada. Ask Canadian WW2 vets what they thought of the SS, ask any of their Normandy vets what they would do to any prisoner belonging to the "SS Hitlerjugend" division, this unit has a very particular history with Canadians. The SS commited numerous war crimes against Canadian troops in WW2, and these motherfuckers are now giving them standing ovations? Man fuck the west, fuck every bit of this worthless concept. Fuck all liberals, motherfuckers are an insult even to their own history.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's actually large Ukrainian exile groups living in Canada, including some linked to OUN-B (Organization Ukrainian Nationalists - Bandera faction)

https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network

Here's a Ukrainian-Canadian high school student holding a picture of the genocidal Yaroslav Stetsko

Here's a bunch of Ukrainian-Canadian children in front of a giant bust of the genocidal Roman Shukhevych

Some info about Stetsko/Shukhevych (source: https://archive.md/GZa2H):

Just goes to show you that the war against fascism is global. There is no "fleeing" to places like Canada to get away from this shit. You must arm yourself and get ready to kill fascists within your life time.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Parading around the OUN flag... That really disturbs me. No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except "history repeats itself", pretending it's a law of physics.

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[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 108 points 1 year ago

fidel needs to come back and beat some sense into his son

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago
[-] showmustgo@hexbear.net 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Completely on brand and absolutely no one in the MSM sphere will question who was fighting against the Russians in WW2

hitler-detector tito-chad Right this way barbara-pit

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

when are we going to hear about brave resistance to the Russians liberating Auschwitz

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[-] YouKnowIt@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago

Weird that the call it the First Ukrainian Division when it was called "SS Schuetzen Division "Galizien" when this old Nazi bitch joined up. For a real ass patriot like this fella it's weird he joined this outfit considering "The terms "Ukrainian", "Ukraine", could not be used when addressing the division, stressing the Imperial Austro-Hungarian heritage of the term "Galizien"."

Also found out that this evil cocksucker might've seen fucking Himmler himself when he gave his division a speech.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago

This is not even about supporting Ukraine anymore. It's just glorification of Nazis.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was easily predicted that the west wouldn’t liberalize Ukraine, but that Ukraine would fascitize the west (even further).

Liberalism morphs into fascism when threatened under war conditions. Of course the west would become extra fascist from getting heavily involved with a war on behalf of fascists. It’s so frustrating that we could see this was going to happen but could do nothing to stop it.

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[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AP news wrote a lot of words when they could've just said Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin.

Edit: Also, I'm overflowing with tankie energy right now. galaxy-brain

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Get it up to 340 kW and you can start a T-34 and do... things.

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[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 89 points 1 year ago

Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the "national liberation" crowd.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

Zelensky's fucking grandpa fought for the Soviets

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Like, an entire additional digit more

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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 85 points 1 year ago

These are photos of SS Galicia Division veteran who was given standing ovation by Canadian parliament, prime-minister of Canada and president of Ukraine. He published these photos of himself in this division during training in Germany.

He wrote that he volunteered to join SS Galicia Division in 1943 in Ternopil region in Western Ukraine

https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1705739708683128836

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

Ironically less nazi imagery in photos of the original nazis than I see in photos of ukrainian troops in 2023.

Really makes you think thinking-about-it

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

all nazis born after 1990 know is buy sonnerad pins on etsy, get arty striked after livestreaming yourself seig heiling on telegram, eat hot chip, and lie

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Well they just considered it the natural state of things, whereas current Nazis need to assert themselves loudly because they think they don't have any power. Of course, they are wrong, they have lots of power in the Western world, but it is mostly stealthy and surrounded by liberal civility.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

Being a leftist and knowing the actual history seems like some kinda clown-car damnation from time to time. This is one of those times.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago

not even one of the contemporary kkklown divisions that litter ukkkraine, but one of the OG nazis. not surprised tbh

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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago

Canadians just discovered that Ukraine has a history of commiting genocide, making them kindred spirits

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago

The word nazi doesn't even appear in that AP article what the fuuuuck

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Not even the words “SS” or “German”. The average unbiased, unpropagandized westerner will read the caption and think “whoa wholesome Ukrainian military unit”

[-] Clippy@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago
[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Post it in the lemmy worldnews comm.

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Did anyone not clap? Holy shit hahaha

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

How does that saying go?

Bring a fascist before parliament and a liberal applauds??

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[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago
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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

I had an Arab friend told me he hated Ukraine. Not hated the war or anything like, but just hated Ukraine as a whole. I definitely understood his sentiment but didn’t agree with entirely hating it even after all the obvious Nazism. I took the liberal route of bad apples, that the majority of people do not support fascism. But it’s pretty clear that my friend is correct. I hate modern Ukraine in its entirety - no different than the US or Israel or Nazi Germany or confederate south. This is what Ukraine and its western allies support. Russia shouldn’t give them any concessions

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

it is worth noting that the Ukrainian people elected Zelensky on a platform of peace and bringing azov to heel. Although everyone from the region I've personally met has been massively in favour of war with russia

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[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Zelenskyy and Trudeau also attended a rally in Toronto with the local Ukrainian community late Friday.

Wonder how many red and black flags they had at that rally.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Canada and the USA are full of literal Nazis. But that doesn't stop them from saying that they all fled to South America, even though most Italian, Japanese and German immigrants came before the First World War.

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

America, no! Sorry, force of habit.

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