Bernie Sanders blasts Trump for federal loans and grants freeze: ‘He is not a king’ : usa

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s nice, Bernie. Now can you please stop voting to confirm Trump’s nominees?

It’ll be easier for people to believe he’s not a king when you stop bowing to him.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Is he actually confirming the nominees?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/bernie-sanders-marco-rubio-vote/?amp

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

What the fuck the Bernie?

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

wtf

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I think this might be because they're worried that if Rubio doesn't get it that Trump will nominate someone even worse.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I don’t care. We cannot continue this ’lesser evil’ bullshit. Look where it’s gotten us.

[+] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -6 points 1 day ago

Ignoring the "lesser evil" route got us Trump and his cabinet. Good for us. Things will get much worse much more quickly. There's not going to be a revolution or some great reset. Just oppression. Hard miserable oppression.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Both candidates were openly supporting genocide in the last presidential election. Neither were a lesser evil.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

So you are saying things would be exactly as bad had Harris or Biden won?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I’m saying both would’ve committed the same crime, and killed just as many Palestinians.

I’m a socialist. I don’t participate in the Red & Blue MAGA obsession over which flavor of demagogue should be empowered and worshipped.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That's all well and good, but it's also not the question I am asking. Assuming your statement is correct, are you saying everything would be just as bad as it is or is going to get with Harris or Biden?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I don’t know. I guess it depends on your demographic. I don’t see how dying under a Democrat is better than dying under a Republican. Once it’s bad enough, the degree of how bad between the two is irrelevant.

If the only options are Hitler or Mussolini, the only correct choice is to fight the entire system.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Do you actually think the same number of people would die under Biden or Harris? Assuming your comparison is entirely correct the conclusion implies a singular choice. Fighting the entire system can happen in every scenario. If voting for the lesser of two evils is able to reduce the harm to a few people or buy time to fight the system then that seems like the better choice. Mussolini only caused the deaths of thousands, not the millions Hitler did. Maybe at that level those are just statistics, each and every person between those numbers has friends and family that would disagree.

"While evil triumphs and your rigid ideals crumbles into blood stained dust the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns".

I despised Biden and Harris. Voting for them brought me no joy. However I can say that I am already seeing additional harm being done that was not before Trump won.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Is there anything the Dems could possibly do that you would be unable to stomach? Unable to participate in to any degree?

If yes, why isn’t it this? If no, you are in a cult.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Anything that results in more human suffering than the alternative. Like I said before one is demonstrably worse than the other. We don't live in a movie or book. I'm going to keep fighting the same I always have, and I can do that WHILE choosing the option with less suffering.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

That's outright not true. You can claim Kamala wouldn't have tried hard enough to stop the genocide but she did NOT openly support it.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/8/8/harris-campaign-denies-support-for-cutting-off-weapons-transfers-to-israel

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

She also supported a ceasefire and two-state solution. Yes, she was more pro-Israel than I'd have liked, but that doesn't mean she's anti-Palestine.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

She supported continuing arms sales to Israel, which is a crime. It’s a violation of both domestic & international laws. And we know the White House attorneys made the administration aware of this.

There’s no way to double talk out of this one.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

How exactly was that doublespeak?

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

Bernie never fails to disappoint when he is needed.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He is not a king

People sure do act like he is

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

If you get all the levers of government under your control - you kind of become a king.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The timeline where Gore won the election he actually did win then handed the reins to Bernie has warp travel and human/alien babies by now.

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I sometimes wonder if we're in the wrong timeline like on that episode of NextGen where Tasha Yar was never killed, they encounter the Enterprise-C, and Guinan tells Picard "it's not supposed to be like this, there should be children on this ship," or words to that effect.

However, people probably felt that way too when JFK was shot; from where I'm standing, the real fracture in the timeline occurred on 9/11, and things have only gotten more batshit crazy and fractured as time goes by.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That seems entirely possible. For all we know these ghouls in the GOP are actually the Loom in human form just consuming all the life in this dead end timeline. We need a Crusher

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago

We got the timeline that happens when we allow things to happen for decades without protesting (the European way) when politicians try anything the first time.

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Bernie's too good for us. He could have done way better imho...

[-] ruk_n_rul 8 points 2 days ago

If it quacks like a duck...

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

If something isn't done this year he will be

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, the founding fathers made a constitutional monarchy in all but name. Every president keeps fucking with what little constitutional restraint they had in the first place and face no consequences (only to pretend they're widdle powerless and restrained bois when politically expedient), all that happened is the veil has been lifted.

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