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[-] trigg@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago

Also what's more American than taking a loss to under cut competition and then hiking when everyone else goes out of business

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 29 points 1 month ago

It is capitalism when American parasite does this, mate.

Now apologize!

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 51 points 1 month ago

US corporate sector throwing a tantrum when it gets beat at it's own game.

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"The free market auto-regulates itself" motherfuckers when the free market auto-regulates itself

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

to make american ai unprofitable

Lol! If somebody manage to divide the costs by 40 again, it may even become economically viable.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

what's that hissing sound, like a bunch of air is going out of something?

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

That's the inward drawn air of bagholder buttholes puckering.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

nO. STahP! yOUre doING ThE CApiLIsM wrONg! NOw I dONt liKE tHe FrEe MaKrET :(

[-] fallowseed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

if you can imagine a fish enjoying a succulent chinese meal rn, rolling its eyes

[-] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago
[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 month ago

I SEE YOU KNOW YOUR JUDO WELL

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How do you "fake" an AI? The whole point is that it's fake to begin with.

It's like saying fake a disguise, or fake a fake ID.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Huh? Who said they faked an AI?

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, you might as well call it the Walmart expansion model

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, it's AI, therefore I don't give a shit.

[-] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We literally are at the stage where when someone says: “this is a psyop” then that is the psyop. When someone says: “these drag queens are groomers” they are the groomers. When someone says: “the establishment wants to keep you stupid and poor” they are the establishment who want to keep you stupid and poor.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's so important to realize that most of "the establishment" are the pawns who are just as guilty. Thank you.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Also "The establishment" when used in accusations can be replaced by "Rich bastards and right-wingers" and the accusations are usually spot on. Child abuse, sexual assault, market manipulation, bribery, always checks out perfectly.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's where I feel our perspectives diverge. I think there is a sickness that is rooted within the heart of the human experience and it is a fear-based compulsion based on power/control. Some (the rich) have means to express this sickness in larger domains, but it is a characteristic that seems to be independent of wealth. I think there are people with this illness, and those without, and those somewhere on a curve.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Given China's track record of telling the truth about as much as a deranged serial killer trying to hide the fact they are a murderer, I don't trust DeepSeek claims at all. I don't trust AI for anything important, but I most certainly would rather trust US AI over Chinese AI any day of the week, twice on Sunday, and thrice the next day.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I do feel deeply suspicious about this supposedly miraculous AI, to be fair. It just seems too amazing to be true.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

You can run it yourself, so that rules out it's just Indian people like the Amazon no checkout store was.

Other than that, yeah, be suspicious, but OpenAI models have way more weird around them than this company.

I suspect that OpenAI and the rest just weren't doing research into less costs because it makes no financial sense for them. As in it's not a better model, it's just easier to run, thus it makes it easier to catch up.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Mostly, I'm suspicious about how honest the company is being about the cost to train the model, that's one thing that is very difficult to verify.

[-] ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Open source means it can be publicly audited to help soothe suspicion, right? I imagine that would take time, though, if it's incredibly complex

[-] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Open source is a very loose term when it comes to GenAI. Like Llama the weights are available with few restrictions but importantly how it was trained is still secret. Not being reproducible doesn't seem very open to me.

[-] noscere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

True, but in this case I believe the also open sourced the training data and the training process.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's open source and people are literally self-hosting it for fun right now. Current consensus appears to be that its not as good as chatGPT for many things. I haven't personally tried it yet. But either way there's little to be "suspicious" about since it's self-hostable and you don't have to give it internet access at all so it can't call home.

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1ic8zil/yes_you_can_run_deepseekr1_locally_on_your_device/

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