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submitted 1 year ago by Soltros@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

He's just going to get people killed. But that's ok he doesn't give a shit anyways, so it's moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?

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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 352 points 1 year ago

So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.

This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago

I spent a decade living around Africa, and this kind of thinking is common. DDT was what everyone put on the tomatoes because pests mean loss of food. Who wants that?

Lack of relations is only about living in short-term survival thinking 24/7. Long term effects mean nothing.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

DDT isn't going to cause health problems for the people in Africa. It will cause problems for some birds near the top of the food chain however.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

It's just the easiest example to use. I have maybe dozens more examples that require more storytelling and setup.

Ever had someone try to sell you a car with visible drywall screws holding the bumper on, like you were the dick for pointing them out?

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

DDT won't fuck you up if you die in your 20s from unrelated causes

[-] kinsnik@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

"regulations are written in blood" is a quote for a reason

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 42 points 1 year ago

Fair point, on the other hand, have you considered line must go up?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 24 points 1 year ago

Seriously. It's like no one realizes the literal most important thing in all of the world.

Line go up.

Fuck your family, fuck your health, fuck your safety, fuck yo couch, fuck the environment, LINE GO UP!

C.R.E.A.M.

.... Fml

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I'm kind of relieved we're extincting ourselves before we become an interstellar plague of misery, with children being born into inescapable, perpetual oxygen debt to the local corporate leadership on Mars and Titan colonies.

We'd make the Ferengi look like altruists. We were a mistake of evolution.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Go read about how horribly adulterated food was in Europe and the US in the 1800s and before. They'd add sawdust to flour, chalk, toxic metals, rotten meat was sold regularly, etc. Patent medicines were essentially drug trafficking or just scams. Soldiers in the Spanish-American war were supplied with canned meat from the US Civil War. I saw an old film from the time the Pure Food and Drug act was passed showing a can of meat being opened and it literally shot out from the gasses inside.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 21 points 1 year ago

They will just call it Freedom Juice™ and write on the packaging that it makes the food taste more better.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 131 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have to remember that musk literally, unironically, thinks we're npcs. He actually genuinely does not think that the masses of poor people are actually people.

So no, he won't fucking care.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago

He should maybe remember that the deathclaws that punish you for skipping straight to New Vegas are also NPCs.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

He paid someone to get past that part for him.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

You got a little extra negative there.

Not negativity, you can't overstate the direness. Just grammar.

He actually genuinely thinks that the masses of poor people aren't actually people.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Yep fixed, fat thumbs on a tiny phone screen

[-] Corngood@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

So he's Homelander. That's wonderful.

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[-] r00ty@kbin.life 130 points 1 year ago

From my point of view from the other side of the Atlantic, you guys in the US don't have enough regulation as it is. There's only one class of people that benefit from removal of the regulations you do have, and that's the top 1%. It's just going to allow them to do all of the following to make more money, at everyone else's expense.

1: Treat their employees worse than they already do, AND put them into dangerous situations legally. 2: Cut corners to save money at the expense of safety. Think airlines, airliner manufacturers, car makers, construction. The list here could be endless. 3: Well, finance/banking regulations. That will be a field day for the finance sector I'm sure.

I mean the list is potentially endless. But the three points above will keep you busy for long enough I reckon.

No, I don't really feel safe even this far away. We're not immune to all of this anywhere in the world.

[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Your list has most of the highlights, but you're missing 2 really important one: 1. food safety. I guess Americans don't care what is being sprayed on their vegetables or what diseases their meat might have. And 2. environmental. Burning rivers, even more wildfires, smog in all your cities, toxic waste in your lakes, etc. Don't think they won't start polluting like crazy if they can.

All regulations means ALL regulations; even the ones most people would think are so common sense they don't expect them to go away. They will. If it makes more money, they'll get rid of any and all regulations.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I stopped at three when I realised I could be there all day when it comes to regulations that private companies need to adhere to. But I would agree those should have been on my abridged list too.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

Decades upon decades of progress are going to be gone by the end of this.

We'll spend the rest of our lives living in a system slowly being rebuilt, if we even get that lucky.

There goes our futures. And we voted for it.

Truly a shit nation full of shit people.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

The wounds are too deep for rebuilding, imo. Even if we do get the chance, there's just not enough Band-Aids, political will, and time in four years for the democrats to repair it. We're facing the complete implosion of our federal government and its legitimacy along with it.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The worst part is that there's not enough of an organized opposition to stop it, or even really slow it down. Neither major political party acts in favor of the people; major news outlets and social networking tools are owned by billionaires; a sizeable chunk of the country is perfectly OK with getting ratfucked so long as José next door gets it worse. We aren't facing the implosion of the USA into a TechnoFascist Hellscape, we're LIVING IT.

[-] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Don't worry. WW3 will be the world against the US within the next decade.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

B-bu-but grandstanding uncommitted Jill Steiners told me not to worry and they're all the same though!!?

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

I say we get rid of all patent and IP laws too and see how he does.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Now THAT is a good idea

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[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

So US citizens should be able to import Chinese Teslas clones for half the price, right ?

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

No. He's saying THEY get to ignore all regulations. Not you.

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Does this mean I csn buy a Hilux?

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Can you not buy a Hilux in the US as it stands?

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 40 points 1 year ago

I feel like I'm a crazy person, but I'm starting to believe the conspiracy of tech billionaires trying to dismantle the government to create network states. I'm almost certain they will gut the SEC eventually as well, so they can deregulate cryptocurrency. This was a summary I've recently read: Day One of Venture Capital Takeover.

Everyone should google Network States and the cities these VC billionaires are trying to create. Stuff like Próspera, Pronomos Capital, Praxis Nation, Bitcoin City in El Salvador, Afropolitan in Africa etc. etc. The same website has long page on it: The Status of the Network State. They are essentially creating sovereign states or cities that aren't beholden to any local government laws and use their own deregulated cryptocurrencies, so that they can control all the rules and power within.

I have no idea how trustworthy the site I linked is, but I can't see what they would gain from lying about it

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I've been around the internet for a long time.

I've seen the horrors rotten.com offered.

I've watched American prisoners being beheaded.

I've seen American soldiers being raped.

I've watched the hanging of Saddam.

I've seen people jumping out of the trade towers.

I've seen...I've seen some truly horrific -- terrible shit in my lifetime. shit that's made my stomach churn and realize what kind of evil exists in this world.

but this...today...is just too much for me.

I think I'm going to go lay down for a few days....

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

Both Peter Thiel and Musk are incredibly dangerous to America's democracy. Here's another choice quote from the site:

Peter Thiel has held “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible” for many years. In 2022, he ripped up $100 dollar bills on stage at the Bitcoin Conference, stating “Bitcoin is the most honest market in the world. It’s the most efficient market… It is telling us that the central banks are bankrupt, that we are at the end of the fiat money regime.” In a 2024 podcast, he stated “Liberalism is exhausted, one suspects that democracy, whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window." PayPal was originally founded to replace the US dollar. Peter Thiel stated in his book, Zero to One: “PayPal had a suitably grand mission — the kind that post-bubble skeptics would later describe as grandiose. We wanted to create a new internet currency to replace the US dollar.” PayPal’s “co-founder” was Elon Musk, showing both parties aimed to replace the US dollar from a very early date in their careers. Marc Andreessen has also been instrumental in financing the rise of Bitcoin.

Let's not forget about JD Vance, the current Vice President, who after a talk Thiel did at Yale Law School, described it as “the most significant moment of my time” at the institution. He later went on to be mentored by Thiel and joined one of his VC companies. He also received about $15 million dollars in donation from Thiel for his Senate campaign in 2022 which was ultimately successful. This was the largest amount donated to a single Senate candidate ever. Forbes published a good timeline of Thiel and Vance's relationship last year.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Bitcoin City in El Salvador will never happen now, because they no longer have it as legal tender.

https://ticotimes.net/2025/02/02/el-salvador-abandons-bitcoin-as-legal-tender-after-failed-experiment

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 21 points 1 year ago

“Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard. It seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, Will come when it will come.”

Julius Caesar, ACT II Scene II by William Shakespeare

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

In my experience, if you have a boss that bitches about OSHA and how they're totally unnecessary, you've got a shitty boss. I'm talking the kind that would get you killed to save a nickel and then go on about how they're the real victims of you going and getting yourself killed like that.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago

All this bullshit from someone that never even took a US civics class. And likely has little to no idea of US history.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

He learned enough. Accrue enough money, and you can do whatever the fuck you want.

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[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

Crashing two planes in his first week wasn't enough, huh?

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Between this and Ulbrict’s pardon, it seems the libertarians may be happy with their choice.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

You gotta break a few eggs to have your butler make you a ribeye steak.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Cool!

I'll open up my bakery and sell bread thatbisnhalf saw dust and alteady so old that worms crawl out.

I'll sell water that will cure cancer aids and I'll just hire a few actors to testify to this.

Man I'm gonna be rich

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

They had more regulations in the middle ages.

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He thinks we're probably living in a simulation so logically killing people wouldn't be morally wrong to him.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Deport Elon.

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