Ah... so now we're not just dividing the people against themselves domestically, but internationally too.
Who benefits from that?
What a fucking stupid meme
Not stupid of you're trying to support Trump's efforts to divide the US and its allies.
Like Europe is doing any better
21% of romanians who voted thought someone who said that carbonated juices contain nanochips, which "enter you like into a laptop", and that someone responsible with the death of 250000-380000 jews during WW2 was a national hero, while also saying that he would fight antisemitism if elected was the best choice
We don’t act like we are one country even though the EU + some other countries act more like one country than the US.
Not saying that we aren’t a mess, but there are vast differences between countries in every sense of the word.
This meme is stupid and the thread is full of people who say “the Americans should fix it”
Sure let’s go protest and get shot dead by our own new gestapo.
Fuck off.
What we really need is action but we are too cowed.
Is this trying to claim that Americans against Trump... Shouldn't be taken seriously? Aren't being honest? What prejudiced thing are you claiming exactly?
I see it more communicating this idea that as other countries rightfully discuss the ramifications and impact that a fascist American leader has on them, Americans feel the need to pop in and make it about themselves and seek some kind of validation. Like, okay, cool, how about you go fix your damn fascist country then instead of seeking brownie points?
I'm not saying it'll go this far, but if we have to fight a war and their kid gets drafted, we're not just gonna not shoot him just because their daddy/mommy disagrees with their president. Unless they're willing to infiltrate and spy for us, they're basically insignificant bystanders.
Please give me working instructions for fixing this shit. Been protesting and voting for 20 years and shit only gets worse.
A protest in France looks very different than a protest in the states.. all I'm saying.
Our police also are a lot different... ours is just an Abrams short of the miltary.
You understand the guy driving the Abrams is also your neighbour right?
The police in the US largely side with fascists. They in large part become police officers just to have power over people. No, not all police are like that, but there are always a few in every department, and "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" as they say. Police officers who try to stand up to these people get punished for it. The rot goes deep.
My neighbors are mostly MAGAts. So i dont think they'll be on my side.
Our police can shoot us dead and people in most of the country will look the other way because law and order, especially if you're not white. America has been fascist for a long time, it didn't suddenly start under Trump.
Look at the BLM protests, they were huge, but the sentiment of half of the country was against them and there were many who fantasized about police or vigilantes making the streets run with blood. And in the end the thugs with badges are still well funded and well armed.
And what are you going to do about it?
It's almost as if we don't control the media, social media, or how other people think.
We're stuck on this stupid train that takes directions from every idiot no matter what their direction is, like "ok now drive off that cliff!"
Not sure how powerless people change that. We're well past the age of guillotines. At least the peasants of the past shared a common reality. With propagandists and social media we live in multiple versions of "reality" all fighting to be the "real" one...
I'm someone who's trans, who voted for Harris, who tried to make sure everyone around me understood that Trump was a fascist (it didn't work). I've had way too many Europeans and Canadians try to tell me that I should be taking partial responsibility for Trump. I've had way too many people from Europe and Canada tell me that I should just get over it, grow up, and stop being hysterical about what's going on, while immigrants are being rounded up and sent to totally-not-concentration-camps in Guantanamo Bay. This is called "victim-blaming" and it's a disgusting practice and quite honestly, fuck them too at this point. If they wanna be on the wrong side of history, that's their choice.
Imagine telling the immigrants, Jews, disabled or LGBT during the Holocaust that it was their fault that Hitler was rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps.
What an absolutely disgusting attitude and it shows the true colors of Europe and Canada. The most upsetting part is that I know that once this is all over, they're gonna be sitting there crying crocodile tears while pretending that they knew nothing and nothing could have been done.
Edit: meanwhile I have a couple south american friends who are trying to get me to move to their respective countries because supposedly people in most south american countries don't actually give a shit about your sexuality or gender; it's only the corrupt-ass American puppets who give a fuck. Surprise-surprise. Also, if true, so much for the anglosphere moral superiority complex lmao. I'm very tempted to take a long vacation to visit them and test the waters.
It’s not fair to blame you that is true.
But in the end this is only and issue that American’s can solve, but people outside the US will bear the consequences something a whole not of American’s are forgetting.
Idk how you being trans is relevant to the specific situation, maybe stop using that in irrelevant context. There are a lot of people who will take your point a bit less serious. The same gues if you use other irrelevant points, like what you ate for dinner.
Keep up the good work and keep helping to fix the mess caused by your countries citizens.
Me being trans is very relevant because, in case you haven't noticed, the US government is trying to erase trans people. We're currently one step away from all-out genocide, complete with concentration camps and mass graves, something which our current politicians in power have expressed an interest in multiple times. When I say we need help, I'm not saying that we need the EU to come fix our problems, I'm saying we need refuge and an escape before Trump starts finding space in Guantanamo for trans people too. We need a place to run to because our own country is threatening to disown and murder us. I would not put it past them to start """losing""" people's IDs and birth records, so they can claim false citizenship and send them to Guantanamo as "immigrants".
This is not something I can fix. This is not something trans people can fix. This is like staring a grizzly bear in the face and expecting to be able to fight it one-on-one.
Yes I know and it is terrible, but it is terrible either way. If you personally are trans or not. Argumenting it in a different way can help and you migt even get some transfobes to get to help you. Most trans people I know (especially the older once) here in NL, had way less issues before it became something people publicly shared. But they don’t consider themselves trans, they consider themselves of the opposite sex they where born.
If people are giving up then there is almost no hope of fixing the country. There is no allied who can help the US because of the way the US positstioned itself in the past.
If needed you can start the paperwork to migrate here and you might even be able to apply for help as a refuge. In NL we already can’t house own people with the influx of refugees from different parts of the world, but I gues we make it work? Idk if I where you I would try it in all different ways to get to a country where people are more accepting of each other
I now look at the American population the same way as I look at the Russian or North Korean populations. They are caught in terrible states and I support those who resist their tyrannical government. I do not, however, think their positions on global affairs have much value as they ought to be more focused on their own terrible government. Hearing Americans tell Canadians how we should respond to Trump is falling on deaf ears.
THIS 🚨 IS 🚨 HAPPENING 🚨 TO 🚨 YOU 🚨
One of the biggest superpowers in the world wasn't captured by accident or from some grassroots stupidity. The same exact playbook is being run in nearly every developed country by the same people. You need to learn from where we failed and stem the tide.
If you don't understand why that "position on global affairs" is important coming from the people actively being crushed by the domino, I don't know what to say. I guess we'll just mutually pity each other's tyrannical governments...
Hi there, disabled American here.
Any chance I can seek aslyum in the EU or Canada when Trump/Elon cuts off my disability payments, thus leaving me to die, starving and homeless?
No, fleeing because you'd otherwise starve is what our neoliberal government calls an "economic migration".
You're only a legit refugee when your government is trying to kill you directly, like right now. In that case, you can apply for asylum, but please do so before leaving your country, and allow 5-10 years for processing your application.
I hope so - asylum usually needs to be filed from a political persecution perspective, but probably worth looking into what paperwork you would need to prove your need for asylum now.
Oh, well I don't have much paperwork left, beyond a pdf of my SSDI payments.
Got assaulted, maimed, lost my job, got evicted, lost everything, ended up homeless for about a year.
Somehow managed to get my social security card and drivers liscense replaced after my wallet got stolen for the third time, roughed it untill I got SSDI payments instated, had to take a greyhound halfway across the country to find a shit tier motel turned 'apartment complex' willing to let me rent, that I could afford.
The job that I lost was being a data analyst, db admin, webdev, etc for the largest non profit in Seattle ... that served and housed the homeless community.
They didn't give a fuck about myself becoming homeless, despite me personally knowing half the people that man the phones, despite myself having overhauled the online application for assistance process.
... So anyway, yeah I don't have any paperwork anymore, beyond debt collectors harassing me for bills run up on my stolen credit cards.
Victim blaming. How enlightened.
When Germany brings in the fourth reich after voting in the AfD in a few years I'm gonna be remembering this lack of basic compassion and empathy for the americans who explicitly tried to stop Trump.
Americans seeing themselves as the center of the world and primary (or only?) victims here, when American foreign policy is wreaking havoc on the international community. We're not focused on you, as Americans, because your government is currently trying to fuck us and we're dealing with that. We can have compassion for what you're going through, just don't expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.
We can have compassion for what you're going through, just don't expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.
That's perfectly fair. That's also not the message the meme conveys.
So what should we do? Just kill ourselves for where we were born even though we don't agree with anything the government is doing? This is the most shit take I've ever seen.
Perfect. Could be a better finger choice but really accurate.
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