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submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's long-standing pledge.

However, Congress must approve the agency's abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.

GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.

Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.

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[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 213 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Congress is required for all sorts of shit that Elon is doing but that isn’t stopping Elon.

Laws are not some sort of natural force. They are implemented by people and all of those people are either fascists or cowards.

Trumps immunity plus his pardon power make him king. All of his minions can do all the illegal things they want. Trump can then pardon them and he isn’t liable for their crimes if he is doing something roughly in line with his duties are President. John Roberts fucked us all.

The only way this is going to be solved is by people power. Organize. Fight these fascists.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 44 points 2 weeks ago

This is exactly why musk is not appointed, he can't be impeached and as you said DOJ and pardons will protect him.

[-] Vash63@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You forgot money.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

They already blocked organization by controlling the mass media and major social platforms are in cahoots.

Facebook, Twitter/X and tiktok all pushed trump and hid Kamala during the campaign. Not to mention the influencers that got paid to push Trump.

Any type of hashtag or trend that tries to fight back is just going to get pushed down in "the algorithm" or straight up blocked (search kamala on twitter)

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 166 points 2 weeks ago

Education is Fascisms biggest enemy. That's why.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ignorance is Strength

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 118 points 2 weeks ago

It might be worth mentioning that Andrew Johnson signed the Department of Education into law in 1867. It was elevated to a cabinet position in 1979 by Carter from it's previous position within the Department of Health, Education, And Welfare.

The idea that the government has a constitutional interest in fostering the education of the public is NOT a new thing contrary to what conservatives would have you believe. An educated populace is an essential function of a representative democracy.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 59 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago

But I can’t figure out why. A society with severe brain drain would lead to reduced quality of life for them as well. Are they just banking on AI to do everything while everyone dies in rebellions and counter-rebellions? Shit, that’s probably it.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 59 points 2 weeks ago

Fascists aren’t particularly smart. They tend to lose in the long run because they just cannot comprehend anything complex. All their philosophy is wishful thinking and simple heuristics that follow their preconceived notions about the superiority of their in group.

They want feudalism because they can’t stand anyone having power other than the people who deserve to rule. They can’t stand that non elites can vote, demand decent wages, etc. so they want feudalism without understanding the downstream effects of that.

They are just fucking dumb. And that is why, if we get enough time, we will win against them. Climate change might get us. But we will fucking destroy these no knowing fuck wits.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I also don't understand why they're aiming for this kind of society. Eventually they'll cut so much that the actual pie will shrink, so they'll end up getting less while being surrounded by slums.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

They measure their quality of life by their ability to dominate others. On top of the desire for feudalism for many of them is a desire for theocracy. For them politics peaked at the divine right of kings.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

But an educated populace is anathema to the ruling class.

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[-] echo@lemmings.world 70 points 2 weeks ago

DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the churches.

[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the ~~churches~~ corporations.

Let's not kid ourselves, the churches will get some money for taking the poor kids, but the goal is to privatize education so that corporations can profit from schooling even more than they already have.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I’m just warning you that education is seen as an “investment”, they are already on the capitalist pigs pathway and well with so many fat pigs I think dirty pork would be best to feed the population.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 2 weeks ago

The White House is drafting ~~an executive order~~ a royal decree to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's ~~long-standing pledge~~ long con.

~~Critics~~ An overwhelming consensus of experts, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.

Trump also recently signed ~~an order expanding school choice~~ a decree lowering educational standards, reinforcing the Republican agenda of ~~decentralizing education policy~~ dismantling public secular education in favor of religious and political indoctrination.

There, fixed the "we must obscure reality by using their terms so they won't come after us next" cowardice.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago

Let em keep chopping off the federal government ..... at one point, individual states will start wondering why they are all interconnected in a union that doesn't do anything or provide any benefits any more and start acting like independent nations.

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 42 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly like every foreign adversary wants

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[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

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[-] Mighty@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

I'm so sorry, Americans. I'm not sure who is even able to liberate your country. You and the Russians liberated the camps in Europe at the end of WW2, but who's there for you? I think you might need to liberate yourself. Again. I'm sorry. Good luck

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[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck to your kids and grandkids, education is fucked. Back to the feudal times where only royalty and the rich were educated. If this passes I am not paying student loans anymore. The department that issued them will be gone so why pay.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That loan will just get transferred to DOGE dont worry.

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[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Knowledge is power, and the GOP can't have educated people around...gotta keep that shit in check and keep our kids stupid so they can't ask questions, you know?

[-] Timbits@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago

I couldn’t even imagine what even dumber Americans would look like.

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago

I refer you to the documentary films "Idiocracy" and "Don't Look Up"

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, reality has surpassed the referenced films.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

In case anyone is still wondering if Republicans are enemies of the United States of America, you need not wonder anymore.

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago

If the Federal Government doesn’t want to be responsible for anything, why even be a country? Each state be their own I guess /s

Also are they going to reduce taxes for all the cuts? Doubt it, but states would have to make increases to cover all the new work.

we live in the dumbest timeline.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

You laugh, this is literally Curtis Yarvin's (one of Elon's mentors) vision of America. A patchwork of corporatocratic fiefdoms, technically beholden to a federal government that basically only exists to be the arm of violence. The whole "no authority higher than a county sheriff" thing? Came out of his books. The idea of being "educated" will only be for the vaunted manager-class. All of us not lucky enough to be in the millionaire's club, or one of their trusted lackeys, will be lucky to know how to read beyond a 3rd-grade level, or do math beyond simple arithmetic.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to Elon's Brave New World!

[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Literally what the fuck are we paying taxes for, they are dismantling every bit of representation of the people possible. Well only have ruch fucks and bombs left to pay for.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

The collective "we" voted to give all of our money over to Trump I just council of billionaires.

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago

The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright. But the subtext? Steady erosion. Shift student debt oversight to Treasury, pare back civil rights investigations, let federal education funds atrophy. States then fill the vacuum: red ones push vouchers, defund “woke” curricula, blue ones scramble to plug gaps.

The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation. Rural GOP districts take the bait, then recoil when their Title I lunches and special ed services evaporate. Even conservatives quietly rely on federal data systems and grant streams—hypocrisy’s baked in.

Latest school choice expansions? Distraction tactics. Real damage accrues in the margins: disabled students lose protections, civil rights complaints backlog, teacher retention plummets. ED’s survived 40 years of GOP vitriol because dismantling it’s all optics, no payoff.

Predictable cycle. Provoke outrage, let chaos incentivize privatization. Rinse, repeat.

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[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 20 points 2 weeks ago

How you all haven't had a revolution I'll never understand.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 weeks ago

When the capitol of the country is possibly thousands of miles away, and missing work means losing health insurance and becoming homeless, it terrifies a lot of people that can't even miss one day of work for being sick, let alone the days' journey and expense it would take. Much longer than the maximum 8 hour drive it would take to get from anywhere in Germany to Berlin, by comparison.

Not an excuse either, the US is just huge, and set up for citizens to fail if they actually stand up.

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[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I'd love to be at the protests tomorrow. Why it's on a weekday I'm not sure, but my capitol is hours away, and I work. I just started a new job and barely make enough to make ends meet until I get my first commission checks. I wasn't working for months prior.

I literally can't afford to go protest.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bread and circuses. No one wants to revolt.

"The super bowl is on and I just heated up some nacho cheese dip."

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[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

US Healthcare system is the worst in the world by any measure from cost to outcomes

Republicans: lets do the same to the education system.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 weeks ago

So, the DOE handles student loans. No DOE, what happens to the loans?

[-] indecisiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sure the "servicers" will continue to collect. Republicans went out of their way to file a suit on behalf of one of them that triggered relief getting blocked.

Don't worry, they will make sure to close all of the loopholes that might actually benefit the working class.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, student loan repayment is the one point on which politicians will grow a spine and object. God forbid they unite on anything else.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, you would think that would get rid of the loans, but realistically they'll just sell the loans to some bank, and then a political solution to debt forgiveness becomes completely impossible.

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[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

Good news everyone! No more Student Loans!

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Give the power back to the states but create a credentialing system to weed out 'unpatriotic' teachers. Shall that be left to the states too?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You mean the White House is preparing an executive order for protests so they can still gitmo faster?

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