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[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 149 points 1 month ago

Plus DOGE published that their biggest cost reduction was 8 billion, but turns out it was, I shit you not, $8,000,000.00

And this is the people that are gonna let manage the treasury.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 100 points 1 month ago

The difference between 8 million and 8 billion is about 8 billion dollars.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Shows what you know, it's only 7.992 billion different!

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

I have the urge to slap 99.9% of your face.

^^(kidding)

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Ew! Fuck! If you're gonna use shudder MATH, then at least have the common courtesy to CW your post!

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Its even more egregious.

So far, doge claims it saved 45 billion on its website. When you add up the actual reciepts posted, it's 16 billion. Of that 16 billion, half is this false 8 billion, which is 8 million, with 2.5 million already paid out, so actually just 5.5 million.

So even by their records, which are not trustworthy, they may have cut 8 billion. The 100 billion number? Just something Charlie kirk made up. No other hard data at all.

[-] spiffmeister@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Just something Charlie kirk made up.

When your face is that small, everything else looks much bigger.

[-] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

How are these people brazillionaires and I'm schlepping away to not get my home taken off me by the bank? I can string a sentence together and do basic arithmetic, and I can count to twenty without taking off my shoes!

[-] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 90 points 1 month ago

Hey, I lost a lot of weight by removing my limbs!

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago

So for the first leg you chop off, your BMI goes down. With the second one, it goes up significantly. Only chop off one leg.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One leg and one arm though. The ideal body is very narrow lol

Instructions unclear, I now don’t have a head.

[-] Bouzou@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Loose 12lbs instantly!

...by chopping off your arm!

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Doctors hate this one weird trick!

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Plus, you got a really cute nickname! Torso Boy!

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

I saved about $80,000 by not buying a Cybertruck!

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Next time try not buying two of them. The additional $80,000 is life-changing!

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If I don’t buy a Cybertruck every day for a year, I can afford a yacht! Now just add some avocado toast, if I’m feeling fancy.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

And a fine ooh la la to you too, Lord Fauntleroy!

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I have not bought several Cyber Trucks. At this point, I'm a billionaire myself

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

But then you don't get to lose fingers or burn to death.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Damn. Well that's a chance I'll just have to take..

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can "save" a bunch of money by not paying the Fire Department. It'll look great on a budget, and then you can enjoy the beautiful skyline of your city burning!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Oh hey, I think we did that in 2017 with our pandemic response team. I hear there have been no negative consequences

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

There's no evidence of negative consequences.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

That's true! I just looked for the website and there's nothing! Yay!!! I was worried something like 1.2 million Americans were dead because of it, but apparently not!

(Satire. The CDC website still exists. For now...)

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

This is what they're doing, but with literally everything.

The country is going to implode.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Is that what happened with the forest fires?

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

There is a degree to which wild fires could be solved "just" by ramping up land management significantly to remove invasive species, remove dead growth and overgrowth, etc.

The wildfires have been so bad primarily because of invasive species changing what grows where and breaking down natural fire protections, combined with climate change and reduced natural wildfires creating higher fire risk conditions

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

My understanding is they also introduced Australian trees that drop huge amounts of combustible material to contribute to fires because they thrive in those conditions

[-] Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

It reminds me of sim city budget.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago

and then you can enjoy the beautiful skyline of your city burning!

But how could I? Especially without firemen to start the glow.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Hard to enjoy when the air quality is so bad that you can't even breath outside lol

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 51 points 1 month ago

Always ask: saved, for what? The money is appropriated by congress. You're actively working to cut services and programs, not eliminating fraud, waste, or abuse in any way. Not that you'd know, because you already fired the people who track fraud, waste, and abuse for identifying your violations, repeatedly.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

Social programs are profitable, it costs more to take care of a problem than to prevent it.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

I wish there was enough time to sit each of these troglodytes down and teach them the world from kindergarten and up. It clearly didn't take the first time.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Why not one trillion? I mean shit, we're gonna need 4.5 trillion to offset the giveaway to the billionaires. 100 billion is rookie numbers.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Is this how nazi Germany started? Cutting all "unnecessary" projects and personnel then introducing "necessary" projects and personnel that they control...

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Did they? Do you have any sources? Because I did a quick search and couldn't find anything about it (though I'll admit I did not invest too much time into that search)

The Nazi regime did lots of shitty things over half a century ago. The Trump administration does lots of shitty things right now. There is an overlap - but this Venn diagram is not a circle.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago
[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What about it? I don't see anything there that's about "Cutting all “unnecessary” projects", and rather than "introducing “necessary” projects and personnel that they control" it looks like they directly took control on the existing ones.

The only thing that, if you squint hard enough, can remotely resemble cutoffs was the Law for the Restoration of a Professional Civil Service - which would be better equated to the DEI purge than to the cutoffs that this post is all about.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

It's the concept, not the individual steps.

Gleichschaltung is a compound word that comes from the German words gleich (same) and schaltung (circuit) and was derived from an electrical engineering term meaning that all switches are put on the same circuit allowing them all to be activated by throwing a single master switch.[4] Its first use is credited to Reich Justice Minister Franz Gürtner.[5] It has been variously translated as "coordination",[6][7][8] "Nazification of state and society",[9] "synchronization",[5] and "bringing into line".

Every country requires different steps, so you can't copy paste them. Germany was (and still is) a multi-party democracy using plurality voting. Some of the institutions are the same, but not all. Nazification has to be tailored to the system. One important step is to replace opposition at every level. If you haven't noticed, the US is in the middle of a coordinated cleansing at federal level right now.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Some generalization is always required when drawing equivalences, but if you generalize too much your logic becomes circular. For example - let's overgeneralize to the max:

  • We determine that what the Trump administration did was bad because it's similar to what the Nazi regime did.
  • We determine that what the Trump administration did was similar to what the Nazi regime did because both things were bad.

Of course, I'm not claiming that you took it that far. Instead of going all the way to "evil", you've only generalized up to "grabbing power":

  • We determine that the Trump administration is grabbing power because it does something similar to what the Nazi regime did.
  • We determine that the Trump administration something similar to what the Nazi regime did because they were both power-grabbing moves.

Now, this version does require some non-circular arguing - showing that DOGE's project cuts are actually power-grabbing moves in disguise. But there are two problems with it:

  1. Power-grabbing is not a Nazi-specific thing - many groups have seized political power during the course of history. And not all these groups were evil - at this level of generalization, one could argue that democratic revolutions took power from monarchs and had to convert the institutions to be democratic. And even among the evil movements that did this - the Nazi were uniquely evil, because of other things they did.

  2. You were trying to masquerade this generalized argument as a more specific argument:

    Is this how nazi Germany started? Cutting all “unnecessary” projects and personnel then introducing “necessary” projects and personnel that they control…

    This is a very specific argument - "here is a specific tactic the Nazis used to grab power, and the Trump administration uses the same tactic!". The logic here is not circular. The only problem with it is that it isn't true.

Comparison to Nazism is the nuclear weapon of debates. Trumps administration did some things that warrant an exemption from Godwin's law. Concentration camps for immigrants is one of them. Purging minorities from federal jobs is another. But this? The very fact they are trying to grab power? This does not justify a comparison to the Nazis.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Watch, they'll cut everything and then they'll somehow blame the dems for mistreating Veterans, causing huge epidemics, planes falling out of the skies, children dying, instigating genocides, and wars

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

All it cost was two airplane-fulls of people and hundreds of peoples' livelihoods, among other things.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl -4 points 1 month ago

If your premise is "The government does nothing beneficial" then cutting it makes sense 100% of the time. I wish Elon would take some time to check out Chesterton's fence. I'll deliberately not link that here to frustrate readers.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

I’ll deliberately not link that here to frustrate readers.

If i could read, I'd be very upset.

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