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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 4 months ago

They also sell that number, all your chat logs, voice calls and media to AI training companies.

Dont be a loser, dont use discord.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 12 points 4 months ago

Source? The only record of data being sold I remember is some 3rd-party that scraped public servers.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Per their privacy policy they collect

Content you create. This includes any content that you upload to the service. For example, you may write messages or posts (including drafts), send voice messages, create custom emojis, or post other content that you create with features that we develop. You may also upload and share files through the services.

Thats what they collect(so not the calls apparently my bad). In regards to how they use it, they mention advertisement stuff and the usual vague language of "improve our services" and "personalization". The AI stuff is supposedly opt in, but they collect the data and they are subject to US subpoenas so all bets are off anyways.

[-] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

The data collected sounds like a nothing-burger. Of course they collect the data you upload, and of course they store data (like messages) that need to continue to be networked to clients.

How they use the data does sound like corporate trash though.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Of course they collect content you upload. How else do you think they maintain a chat history so people can see what was said while they were offline?

I see nothing in the privacy policy that says they can sell the data. There is, however, things that allow them to share the data with 3rd parties, including bot developers. Having developed Discord bots, I can tell you that you can get pretty unrestricted access (with the server owners cooperation) until you have been added to a bunch of servers (at which point you need Discord approval to get things like message content)

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 months ago

Policy doesn't count for anything. So what if they claim they won't sell data about you? They still can, and companies do.

Or they sell the entire company, like 23AndMe just did.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying it's a perfect service, I'd rather all private messages be E2E encrypted, but there's no evidence Discord themselves have ever sold any data, so I don't understand why we are making crazy claims when them collecting data is a privacy issue enough on it's own.

Calls recently got encryption, so while Discord is as popular as it is, we can only hope they keep expanding encryption into other areas.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

there’s no evidence Discord themselves have ever sold any data

Even if that were true, thats not how things work in the real world. If you cant mathematically prove that you dont have access to the data, then you arent trustworthy.

Calls recently got encryption

Says who? Discord themselves? Did the publish the code?

[-] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 4 months ago

Can you provide a source then if it isn't true? I am genuinely curious.

And yes, they did publish the code for their e2ee protocol.

The whole internet is the same, unless you are running all your own built software that you can vet, you are just putting faith in what a company/individual is telling you. If you want to use the internet, there's always the inherent risk your data is being collected and sold without you knowing.

[-] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Sadly there are a lot of communities that are only on Discord.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

And it's so annoying! Bring back forums!

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I would love to if all of the most helpful specialized communities didn’t all use it.

I can’t even get my friends or family to use Matrix/Element, let alone the masses.

Trust me, I want to make the full switch, but if I’m hanging out on my fancy open source server with no one on it, what’s the point?

I will agree that anything akin to Facebook or Xitter isn’t helping achieve anything, since they don’t provide communication that can’t be found elsewhere (social updates, memes, event invitations, etc), but for communities like this specifically, there’s just not many other places to go.

[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

having a hard time finding a good alternative for screen sharing in a voice call. recently deleted discord and me and my buddy moved to matrix (element) but the screen sharing is very laggy and it needs a more aggressive mic noise removal. we speedrun a singleplayer game together and use screen sharing for that. steam can do all this but the delay is unacceptable.

honestly I'm this close to going back to discord 🤏

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.

They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It's likely due to whatever discord server you're trying to join.

Same for Twitch. Same for a Microsoft account. It's become the new normal.

[-] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 6 points 4 months ago

This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.

That's the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Again - which isn't required. You don't have to supply your phone number.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.

This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven't joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

discord's been doing this for a while, it's really scummy

other companies that do this (that I've found):

  • twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
  • facebook
  • probably a lot more
[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 4 months ago
[-] Nevermore9197@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

What are some alternatives for discord??

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 4 months ago

Team speak but that shit wont fly with Genz

It does the job though.

If group is private ie people you actually know, then just use signal it works fine enough

[-] kubica@fedia.io 4 points 4 months ago

I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I hope Mozilla launches the Firefox Relay phone masking soon...

[-] Marmanvii@lemmy.one 3 points 4 months ago

What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 4 months ago

Because legal people get the protection of the law, shiti organics are there to be abused by legal people.

[-] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

For what it's worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven't gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I'll come back and update.

[-] cryoistalline@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I got locked out of my old discord account because I didn't have a phone at the time

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

There was a server I poked around in once that required members to provide phone number just to join. Seems very unethical considering all the bad things that can happen from identity theft or stalking.... it's not like mods are employees for Discord. They're just random mofos. Why would I trust a stranger on the Internet of all places?

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago

The server owners can’t see your phone number. Discord allows you to set a minimum verification level for users in your server. The lowest is simply having a verified email on their account. The highest is a verified email, a few minutes old (so no brand new accounts), been in the server for a few minutes, and a verified phone number. It’s just a bot prevention thing, because spammers/scammers are a big issue on large Discord servers. Especially early in Discord’s history, it was a big issue where bots would raid a server and just totally shut it down with spam links. So Discord started allowing server owners to set minimum verification levels before users could interact and send messages.

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago

Seriously, you're complaining now? The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.

The what?

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago

Things like Privacy Badger block Discord.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

Sounds like a javascript issue. Privacy Badger has been pointless for a while btw, it's superseeded by uBlock.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

This might be because you're on vpn. Try a public wifi at school, library, coffee shop or something.

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