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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 3 weeks ago

They also sell that number, all your chat logs, voice calls and media to AI training companies.

Dont be a loser, dont use discord.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 12 points 3 weeks ago

Source? The only record of data being sold I remember is some 3rd-party that scraped public servers.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Per their privacy policy they collect

Content you create. This includes any content that you upload to the service. For example, you may write messages or posts (including drafts), send voice messages, create custom emojis, or post other content that you create with features that we develop. You may also upload and share files through the services.

Thats what they collect(so not the calls apparently my bad). In regards to how they use it, they mention advertisement stuff and the usual vague language of "improve our services" and "personalization". The AI stuff is supposedly opt in, but they collect the data and they are subject to US subpoenas so all bets are off anyways.

[-] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

The data collected sounds like a nothing-burger. Of course they collect the data you upload, and of course they store data (like messages) that need to continue to be networked to clients.

How they use the data does sound like corporate trash though.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Of course they collect content you upload. How else do you think they maintain a chat history so people can see what was said while they were offline?

I see nothing in the privacy policy that says they can sell the data. There is, however, things that allow them to share the data with 3rd parties, including bot developers. Having developed Discord bots, I can tell you that you can get pretty unrestricted access (with the server owners cooperation) until you have been added to a bunch of servers (at which point you need Discord approval to get things like message content)

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago

Policy doesn't count for anything. So what if they claim they won't sell data about you? They still can, and companies do.

Or they sell the entire company, like 23AndMe just did.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not saying it's a perfect service, I'd rather all private messages be E2E encrypted, but there's no evidence Discord themselves have ever sold any data, so I don't understand why we are making crazy claims when them collecting data is a privacy issue enough on it's own.

Calls recently got encryption, so while Discord is as popular as it is, we can only hope they keep expanding encryption into other areas.

[-] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Sadly there are a lot of communities that are only on Discord.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And it's so annoying! Bring back forums!

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I would love to if all of the most helpful specialized communities didn’t all use it.

I can’t even get my friends or family to use Matrix/Element, let alone the masses.

Trust me, I want to make the full switch, but if I’m hanging out on my fancy open source server with no one on it, what’s the point?

I will agree that anything akin to Facebook or Xitter isn’t helping achieve anything, since they don’t provide communication that can’t be found elsewhere (social updates, memes, event invitations, etc), but for communities like this specifically, there’s just not many other places to go.

[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

having a hard time finding a good alternative for screen sharing in a voice call. recently deleted discord and me and my buddy moved to matrix (element) but the screen sharing is very laggy and it needs a more aggressive mic noise removal. we speedrun a singleplayer game together and use screen sharing for that. steam can do all this but the delay is unacceptable.

honestly I'm this close to going back to discord 🤏

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.

They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It's likely due to whatever discord server you're trying to join.

Same for Twitch. Same for a Microsoft account. It's become the new normal.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago

I work in the cybersecurity field and I hate that the official discord server of one of the international orgs I'm involved in requires a phone number to participate. The irony.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't think many people know about sim-swap attacks, so they think people knowing their phone number is fine.

Honestly I wish people would just fucking get rid of phone-number-based OTP anyways. TOTP is where it's at.

[-] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 6 points 3 weeks ago

This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.

That's the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Again - which isn't required. You don't have to supply your phone number.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.

This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven't joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

discord's been doing this for a while, it's really scummy

other companies that do this (that I've found):

  • twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
  • facebook
  • probably a lot more
[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Nevermore9197@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

What are some alternatives for discord??

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Team speak but that shit wont fly with Genz

It does the job though.

If group is private ie people you actually know, then just use signal it works fine enough

[-] kubica@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hope Mozilla launches the Firefox Relay phone masking soon...

[-] Marmanvii@lemmy.one 3 points 3 weeks ago

What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Because legal people get the protection of the law, shiti organics are there to be abused by legal people.

[-] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

For what it's worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven't gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I'll come back and update.

[-] cryoistalline@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I got locked out of my old discord account because I didn't have a phone at the time

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

Seriously, you're complaining now? The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.

The what?

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Things like Privacy Badger block Discord.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like a javascript issue. Privacy Badger has been pointless for a while btw, it's superseeded by uBlock.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago

This might be because you're on vpn. Try a public wifi at school, library, coffee shop or something.

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