Democratic Leaders Stand Real Still In Hopes No One Notices Them : theonion

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Top Democrat politicians tried nothing to stop a Trump win on the Presidential Election and were all out of ideas.
Democrats naturally Lost to Trump
Top Democrat politicians sent their minions and useful idiots around to blame people who didn't vote for them because they tried nothing to appeal to them (as part of the grand strategy of trying nothing to stop a Trump win).
Top Democrat politicians carried on doing nothing to stop Trump <- We are here

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Leaders is a strong word. A bunch of dudes mollycoddled by their privilege and standing. Kill your idols. I love the Onion.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

*mollycoddle

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

lmao the onion is killing it these days

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Voters' vision is based on movement.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Considering there actually is a very determined scramble on multiple fronts to stall out trump this insistence from the onion is really starting to feel like defeatist propaganda

[-] meliaesc@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The fact that stalling is necessary instead of having taken any preventative actions is more upsetting.

[+] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -11 points 6 days ago

Americans who told democrats to fuck off, and refused to vote for them, now want those same democrats to save them. 🤦‍♂️

[-] LeMing@lemmings.world 10 points 6 days ago

That's kind of their job though. A lot of people DID vote for them, and they're not doing anything to protect our democratic institutions.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

That's what they get paid for after all

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

So, why do those Dems expect people to vote for them, if they are going to ignore the will of the voters, anyways?

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 106 points 1 week ago

This is as close to factual reporting as we're likely to see for a minute. This isn't satire; it's sociopolitical commentary.

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 6 days ago

Always has been

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -6 points 6 days ago

Don't shit on journalists. If the media is your enemy then you're no better than MAGA.

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 7 points 6 days ago

I have no issue with journalists, but you're not going to find them on an entertainment channel. The Washington Post was rubber stamping war profiteering before Bozos bought them.

The majority of outlets are owned by an ever concentrating number of billionaires. Blind trust is the last thing you want to give them.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Random counterexample, John Oliver probably agrees more with you than me and he runs a comedy news show on HBO. There are tons of people just like him.

The fact that Washington Posts' Harris endorsement which Bezos prevented from printing was immediately leaked means the editors and owners do not have complete control of the narrative.

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 3 points 6 days ago

Bro... John Oliver is a comedian and doesn't consider himself a journalist: https://www.npr.org/2016/02/12/466569047/is-john-olivers-show-journalism-he-says-the-answer-is-simple-no

He's also not a billionaire nor own the show or the network it's on.

Like you're agreeing that the media outlet is under orders to shape the narrative... But then somehow take the individual journalists leaking things they were ordered not to as some perverse reason to still trust the outlet?

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say as your defense of the American press is a British comedian and an admission a billionaire shapes WaPo's narratives.

You are all over the map.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

When corporate media is primarily concerned with profit. That's not free press.

Which isn't to say journalists don't have a right to earn a living. But rather that shareholder profits have way more influence in what gets published then they should.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago

What you fail to realize is accruement of capital of many opposing businesses isn't the enemy at this juncture.

The unchecked power of an elected fascist dismantling democracy is.

There is no all consuming hivemind that connects to people more as their wealth increases, they're all competing against one another.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Elon Musk's media machine and unchecked wealth is a large part of why we are even having this conversation.

And in 2016 it was Fox News.

And while you are correct, that businesses are competing against each other and there is no overarching hive mind. They also have an incentive to compete against the working class. And in that regard, many corporations are aligned.

Folks can compete with each other and still have common interest. And in a capitalist society, the common interest of capitalists is to suppress and oppress the working class.

Edit: also, I didn't down vote you for your opinion. I down voted you for presuming to know what I realize and what I don't. Because frankly, it felt rude.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The way I see it is they've got more incentive as rational actors to promote security and equality. What is interfering with that is irrational primal instincts that make some of them want to hoard wealth and attack those who are physically or culturally different from them.

More billionaires supported a candidate who promised to tax their unrealized gains than they sided with Trump. Trumps billionaires just happened to capture enough social media to tilt things his way.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh yeah I agree there.

And I admit the original comment that started mine in your conversation was too broad. There are enlightened business interests who understand that security and equity is good for business in the long term. I did undergraduate business administration studies, and they teach DEI. Not because it's the ethical thing to do, but because it is good for the bottom line in the long run. Especially in a diverse globalized economy.

But I also get their knee jerk reaction about the media. Billionaires operating on those primal instincts have captured a lot of it, and it is frustrating.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The actual Journalists have mostly been fired from most mainstream media in the US.

It's now mostly Propagandists and Click-bait Enhancing Specialists.

You can blame Liberals as much as the MAGA crowd for moving newspapers away from Journalism and into Propaganda.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

We still hear about Trump dismantling government offices with interviews from employees, we still hear about hospitals shutting down, we still hear about environmental disasters, we still hear about the ICE in military gear going door to door.

You might not like whats in the news, but Journalists are working for your benefit.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The shocking obvious superficial shit that brings in lots of clicks will always be published.

That's what gave Trump lots of proeminence from the very start - say something outrageous -> have the Click Enhancers put your face and your words in front of everybody.

The actual real Journalism (especially Investigative Journalism that dig down into the details and dug out things like closed-door agreements to tilt things just so in favour of a few) has long moved out of the big news media, as has actual Journalistic Ethics ever since newspapers started to be expected to do things like side with a candidate in Presidential elections.

You're confusing companies owned by billionaires which historically, decades ago, did have actual Journalists on the payroll, with present day makers of Journalism.

Just note how little Corruption or at the very least Conflicts of Interest of people in positions of power is mentioned in the big newsmedia publications.

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 0 points 5 days ago

Being selectively informed by a media outlet isn't the same thing as factual journalism.

One of the huge roles of Fox News is to lower the bar for what's considered 'actual' journalism by different outlets owned by the same billionaire class.

The Overton Window has been shrinking and drifting right for decades. There is no left in the United States. https://politicalcompass.org/uselection2004

“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

https://eji.org/news/nixon-war-on-drugs-designed-to-criminalize-black-people/

Viet Nam was very unpopular directly due to front line coverage we don't really get anymore as a result of Reagan nuking the fairness doctrine and birthing Fox News to drag all other media right filing it with ads and misinformation.

Democrats are not left because "left" starts at identifying capitalism as a net bad rather than net good.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Fox News isn't even news at this point, I'm pretty sure they even made that exact argument in court in some of their many many lawsuits.

The fact that you chose that as the example is laughable, makes you seem crazy.

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 0 points 5 days ago

That was entirely the reason I used it and I'm surprised you can't digest what I'm saying.

It's not news yet it's the most popular "news" network on television. Despite poling showing people that watch it are less informed than people that watch no news at all, nothing has been done specifically because it's serving it's intended role: misinforming the gullible and setting a lower bar for MSNBC and CNN to be seen as real news instead of telling you how to feel about what you're told about.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Imagine putting up a rotten disgusting left out poorly gutted fish and using it as evidence that no fish has ever been safe to eat.

[-] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 1 points 3 days ago

As someone that's lived on the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, I would say it's more like see if the water is toxic before you eat the fish. Assuming the fish must be good is asking for problems but it sounds like you just might enjoy diarrhea.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 56 points 1 week ago

“Did it work? I think we’re in the clear for now, but that was a close one. They could have talked to us, for crying out loud, or worse—demanded that we do something."

Egg-fucking-zactly

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