It helps if you have siblings on your side who can shout them down. Genuinely. 3 vs 1, or 3 vs 2 is still enough to open their minds on some topics.
Meet force with force, but only if you have an army. If you're an only child, a more subversive approach is required
My parents are more right wing than me and I tend to just change to conversation topic or make non-commital comments about their opinions.
From my perspective it seems like a general trend towards becoming more right wing for a lot of older people and I'm definitely not going to change their mindset which has been set over 75+ years. I try to just enjoy the time I have with them while I still have them.
Well, one of mine died and it turns out the other one turned Trumper because she had developed dementia so I don't hold it against her.
Have you tried that?
Idk death and dementia don't seem like a feasible solution to me
Books or audio books on the subject of cults and conspiracy theories help to both understand this and eventually know what to do about it.
Unfortunately, you arguing with them about it most likely did only damage and no good. Stop. It will only make your parents more right wing (and you left) then drive you both crazy.
Here is a good place to start if you like: Hivemind by A.Montell Cultish BA S.cavanagh
Hit me up if you want more. But it's a complicated subject that can't be explained in a short lemmy post. If you want any other advice, OP, eatsomeveggies.
Tell them this, Can't buy a house under Republicans,can't buy a house under Democrats, while it's great it worked out for them. You are not represented as a voter and they need to get their heads out of their ass. That is, if they try to push conservative ideas. Otherwise, let them be happy and stupid. The misery is coming for them eventually, so why rush them.
You can't win, unless you delete their social media. There is nothing you can say or do that won't be erased by their next Facebook visit. They are also co-dependent and will not divert from their course individualy
Leave.
It's damn exhausting to discuss political topics with them, [...]
Then don't, and if that's the only thing they're willing to talk about, make passive aggressive remarks about their lack of conversational creativity.
Immigrants to where?
Germany
I cut them off.
No contact
I moved a couple states away from my family to minimize any interaction. It's not just politics. Their politics are, however, and indicator that they're not the type of people I want to associate with, so the extra distance facilitates less contact.
Of course, I moved to Iowa, which has since shifted from purplish to red. At least I'm on a blue city.
Think about attending the funerals if you need the closure but you're under no obligation.
I'm low-contact with a couple of my core family. When we do meet, the other relatives are usually nice enough to just stop any political conversations or rants. Every once in a while, one slips through and I just ignore it, but our interactions have become infrequent enough that it's maybe yearly.
It's heartbreaking to both see some real opinions in some cases (some of which are products of their eras, and some of which have softened), but I also mourn the lack of immunity to conspiracy theories and propeganda on the other; I have seen almost a polar shift in one relative that really shocks me.
We consciously make an effort to either not talk about certain topics or we try to not get too deep into certain topics. This doesn’t always work and we clash, but the clashes don’t cause as much trouble as they used to.
Often I just listen to them and try to support them through the concerns they have. I’m aware that they influence me, being aware helps to either ask them or myself critical questions.
Friends & Family > politics
Now one could argue I’m not serious with my stance and I’m weakly backboned. Id answer that this is my family and I’d advise you don’t put politics over friends & family or you will end up alone at some point.
the challenge Im facing is that some if my family voted to put me and the people I love in camps.
How do I deal with that?
Ghost them as soon as possible and leave the country and naturalise elsewhere if possible
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