I mean, they know it's not "legal", they are just testing the boundaries of judicial oversight. They are going to push boundaries and whenever they get any kind of push back they are going to scream about persecution and claim judicial over reach.

The point is to overwhelm the system to the point of breaking and then claim we don't need to listen to the judicial system, because look how broken it is.

These people aren't stupid, they're just fascist who know things like legal systems are social contracts that depend on good will and trust to operate. If they can break that good will and trust them they can rewrite the social contract.

It is dangerous to assume these people are just stupid.

It’s kind of funny (the sad kind of funny) that people with years of legal studies and experience have to meet and formally rule that something blatantly illegal to the point of stupidity is… well… illegal.

Well yeah - that’s how it works. If you don’t care about law and rules you just do shit. The people who enforce the rules have to follow them and go through processes - and by gum that’s time and work! (And who wants to do work? Definitely none of the judges and lawyers I’ve met lol)

If they imminent domain your house to build a turnpike to siphon off money to foreign investors - that’s on you to put the time and effort into fighting it. If they run voucher programs and charter school scams that benefit their friends - well, they have other friends who often are the ones supposed to enforce the rules. They act, you have to pull yourself together and react. How can you fight an illegal eviction if you’re too busy trying to find a new place to sleep?

It’s that old idea that the state has a monopoly on violence.

This is the exact problem. Trump and Musk are walking through the forest firing a flamethrower indiscriminately, and there are a bunch of people on the outskirts yelling "Hey, you can't do that!"

After considering this question carefully, I expect the answer is: the square root of fuck all.

At some point all the people fired will likely get some money, some may get jobs. It probably takes at least a year for that to happen though.

So they didn't even just limit it to new-hire probationary employees, but also included people who just entered a new title after being an employee for years?

So so so fucking dumb.

If we still have a functioning government and legal system after all of this is said and done, the federal government will be paying out billions of dollars in (completely reasonable) lawsuits.

Super efficient.

Was probably put on “supervisory probation” which is for all new supervisors. I.e., its not just an increase in pay due to increased skills/duties.

I know someone in the same boat and I was wondering if they would get caught in all this stupidity as well.

There's also nothing efficient about firing people from various critical agencies and then scrambling to bring the back after their records have been purged.

It's an ouroborus - a self feeding problem that will always be able to Boogeyman the problem it caused. Those employees will then be painted as wasting money by tying up courts for settlements, decried like the McDonald's coffee incident all over again.

They deserve to get every penny of that too; it’s a stupidity tax.

While the decision is limited to those six workers, its implication is that all, or nearly all, of the mass firings of probationary government workers by President Donald Trump violate the laws regulating government employment

It’s only for the trainees at present, not sure why the title exaggerated

How amoosing!

Even if it does, I am certain that Musk himself will have zero legal liability here. His position is unofficial, all his authority is "because Trump says so", and I strongly doubt he signing his name or signature on anything. That itself should scare people (even those who agree with what he's doing), but most Americans are just sleepwalking.

It will either cost a lot in legal fees, or a lot in every fucking thing is broken everywhere and most services that were already busting at the seams to somewhat operate will just pop like melons under a giant truck tire.

I'm pretty sure anyone coming back, or that wants to ever join again will ask for more pay due to the fuckery and uncertainty it causes.

Yeah, his income level puts him on the "petty fine" tier.

Not a goddamn person that needs to be fired. That's for sure.

Guaranteed trump just found out this office exists because of this ruling

Where's the BOFH when you need him? The server room? Certainly, just through this doorway... Oh! Whoops, my mistake, that was the unfinished fire escape.

Get that defeatism out of here. They're only above the law if we let them be. To date, the Trump administration has backed off when a judge rules against them. Sure, they then try to come up with new, illegal shit to do. But the courts definitely still have a place in putting the brakes on it.