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Secretary of State Marco Rubio grew visibly frustrated during an ABC News interview when questioned about the Trump administration’s approach to Russia.

Defending Trump’s push for peace talks with Putin, Rubio insisted negotiations were necessary but admitted the administration didn’t know Russia’s demands.

He clashed with host George Stephanopoulos over Trump’s refusal to call Putin a dictator and the U.S. siding with Russia in a recent UN vote.

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why can't we have a woman president? They're too emotional for politics?

Also: the emotional melt down is a tactic. This is populism trump style, none of this is unintentional

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Just to be fair: Only women can be elected president for the next 47 presidents.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Can we write s sanity test into the Constitution?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Or maybe we don't vest so much power into a single psychotic ape. Maybe we have three presidents and they all have to agree before something happens, like the computers on the space shuttle

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A triumvirate?

Just a speed bump on the way to a dictatorship.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Okay how about everyone votes on everything? That actually sounds awesome.

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[-] IcedSeraphine@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

No, TRUmp is placating Putin. He’s got to be a Russian asset.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Stopping any cyber offense/defense towards russia is just straight up treasonous at this point.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

The only person to talk about backing out of NATO since its creation has been Putin/Xi and Trump/Musk. So why wouldn't everyone think it?

NATO is Russia/China's greatest deterrent. It's literally devastating to our national security to pull out--so clearly only a bad actor would want that.... It's pretty goddamn obvious.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only person to talk about backing out of NATO since its creation has been Putin/Xi and Trump/Musk.

That's not true. Ron/Rand Paul, Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, and a number of other paleocons have been championing this for decades.

Trump's just the first guy to make it all the way to the White House with the view. But it isn't unique to Trump, nor is it particularly unpopular. Lots of Americans, particularly poorer and more rural ones, see these foreign alliances as an unnecessary extravagance.

They don't like it any more than they liked NAFTA or the WTO or the UN.

NATO is Russia/China’s greatest deterrent.

What is The North Atlantic Treaty Organization detering China from doing, exactly?

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

That’s not true.

I was being facetious.

What is The North Atlantic Treaty Organization detering China from doing, exactly?

Anything in the South China Sea or the Indo-Pacific that they shouldn't be doing. China literally just says sometimes "Hey, nice land you got there. Would be a fuckin' shame if we took it..." and then just pretends like that land has always been a part of China. They literally do it all the time. They're attempting to expand their empire and without the presence of NATO, there would be no one to stop them... Especially from capturing strategic or necessary assets that are critical to the US, like Taiwan. If we lose Taiwan we're pretty much omega-fucked and I don't think people appreciate that fact enough.

NATO is the largest nuclear deterrent in the world and if we pull out, it's like taking all the ammo out of our really big guns. It's such an astonishingly stupid move I cannot even believe that anyone with a pulse would or even could support it. It leaves me fuckin' bewildered.

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[-] AvailableFill74@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

This title is misleading. I watched the whole 9min and he was calm and collected in his delivery. Was he frustrated at the leading questions? Yes. Was he melting down? Ya no, not even close.

[-] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The summary is reasonable though. Again we are cutting trump and his underlings a ton of slack about his campaign claims of fixing the war in 24 hours, and 6 weeks into his presidency. No, we should not accept political hyperbole just because it comes from trump, and Stephanopoulos was rightly asking how does calling Zelenskyy a dictator (and undercutting Ukraine-supporting allies) but sucking up to putin move peace talks forward?

As I said before, the way trump makes these deals is like putting duct tape on your passenger door, calling yourself a master mechanic, and then blame next mechanic when the car falls apart.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

Distracting from Trump's servile position towards the fascists in control of present day Russia by using the favorite logical fallacy of the USSR, whataboutism, is either highly ironic or very on the nose depending on which axis of the political compass you choose to focus on..

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I guess if you don't want the world to think trump isn't sucking putins dick every chance he gets then i guess he should just stop sucking putins dick every chance he gets.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Hey hey hey don’t forget you’ve got to allow for all the time trump spends with putins dick up inside his arsehole - gotta be at least a 50/50 split imo

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Compare the way he talks about Putin with the way he talks about Zelenskyy.

With Putin, we have to see what he wants, we have to try to work with him and understand his position, we can't do anything that might make him uncomfortable so he doesn't decide he doesn't want to talk to us, and his broken agreements are in the past while we need to be moving forward.

On the other hand, he repeatedly states that they've "explained this" to Ukraine, that we can't discuss what they want or what their concerns are, we need to focus on getting peace first, and Zelenskyy is at fault because was disrespectful which apparently we can't ignore for the sake of peace the way we can ignore a history of Putin violating peace deals.

If they actually meant what they are saying and this was all about diplomacy and achieving peace, they wouldn't be picking a fight with Ukraine, they wouldn't be publicly undermining them and trying to coerce them, and they wouldn't be refusing to acknowledge any of their concerns. These motherfuckers think that it's a good look for them to be throwing a tantrum about the way Zelenskyy dresses and getting pissy about him not being thankful enough for the way they are so generously pursuing a peace that carves up Ukraine and comes without security of any kind. That's the way they want to spin this. Because apparently they think acting like thrid grade bullies who try to pick on the smaller kids is admirable, that people will see it and think they look smart and tough.

The only thing I even find remotely believable in this interview is Rubio's mantra of "I don't understand." Just in general I think it's pretty clear that there's a hell of a lot he doesn't understand. Things like human decency, geopolitics, basic negotiation tactics, and parables about riding tigers and giving rides to scorpions. But I think he probably does understand that his position is pure bullshit and that his only job here is to try and tow the line while defending the indefensible. That's why he got so panicked when a tweet from a fellow republican came up, because his strategy was to avoid details and try to frame the backlash as partisan politics, so he can't really respond to Republican criticism.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well said. Username also checks out

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Biden’s approach to Israel

seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.

and if you were going to 'biden' your support for ukraine, there'd be a non-stop airlift going on with equipment and armaments.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Oh Mr Rubio, only difference is Israel aipac is funding all of you congreswith bribes do their bidding

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.

Coming at the Israeli genocide in Gaza and calling it "sane" is one hell of a take.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

He called it "sane by comparison". He didn't say it was sane. Words mean things.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Republicans are making a real effort to convince themselves that we're now at war with Eastasia. But it doesn't seem to work too good: however much they're trying to integrate the newthink, their brains are working against decades of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian indoctrination.

It's really painful and embarassing to watch them try to reprogram their own brains to please their cult leader...

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem is that most people handling this current situation through the lens of classic geopolitics

This is not classic geopolitics. This is the ultra wealthy enacting their plan to create a global plutocracy. A ruling class of only the most wealthy in the world.

They believe that their plans are more easily achieved with a Russian empire than with a free Ukraine.

Ask people like Rubio questions using that as the basis, not classic geopolitics.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago

This is exactly correct, and the Rubios and Grahams currently participating will be discarded like fish and chips paper before the sun sets.

[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, yes, a billion times yes.

To me, the fundamental problem - the primary reason that it seems so difficult to deal with Trump - is that so many politicians and analysts and commentators are still spproaching issues as if the old rules are still in place, and they quite simply aren't.

Every time that another analysis or editorial appears that discusses the "failures" of the Trump administration, since their policies will undermine the original goals of the agency/programs in question, it's ultimately just meaningless noise, since it starts with the patently false presumption that the original goals still count. They don't.

The Trump administration isn't failing to achieve traditional goals - it's succeeding in achieving an entirely new and different set of goals. And there isn't going to be any meaningful commentary until it focuses on those new goals.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Putin wrote the book on this and it’s playing out page by page.

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Putin is one of the most wealthy people on the planet

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And yet when he was recalled to Moscow after the fall of the Berlin Wall he brought back a washing machine because he couldn't get one back home.

Dude started at the bottom and now he's here. Game recognize game.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Is there an estimate of liquid net worth? I'm curious.

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's difficult to estimate because of how much of it is hidden through shell corporations, offshore accounts, or simply under other people's names.

Putin also has incredibly expensive homes, yachts, etc, they're just under a different entities' name

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Yes I remember an article a long time ago about a palatial, secret estate. I believe the that of any more leaks was neutralized.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

He's allegedly have more than a trillion stashed at some of the Swiss ,cyprus or European banks

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

You mean the West is talking out of both sides of our mouths?! Nooo!

That's s lot of bread. I wonder if it was in any of the leaks by Snowden, Assange etc that got good people branded as terrorists or enemies of states?

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Screaming on air won’t hide the fact that appeasement never stops aggressors.

🐱🐱

[-] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"What is wrong with being a peacemaker?" When the bully punches you dont ask him what he wants just punch him back you pussy.

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