Other countries, if you're out there - follow suit. This flappy gum flexing shit we're doing has got to stop. It's gonna hurt, I'm sure. But until we're neck deep into the "find out" phase, nothing is going to happen.
They're going to use this as an excuse to buy Russian oil just watch
In that case, the rest of the sane 1st World should sanction the shit out of the USA until Orange Krasnov and his crew of Russian assets are out of office.
Plenty of Europe, if not all, it's still buying Russian gas, even Spain which has Algerian gas still buys from Russia (a few billions of €), enough for Russia to say Spain is one of the most reliable partners they have.
It's all a sham, a charade, a fucking joke.
Fuck it. Start somewhere.
As an American, I hope this continues.
Exactly as Putin wanted.
A united Europe and an isolated America? Perhaps the latter part sure, but people who think what went down at the oval office is what Putin wanted I think are imagining too much. That was off-script, that messes up everyones plans, especially if Trump and/or Vance are indeed Russian assets. Russia very much intended on a terrible deal with Ukraine to be signed with Europe cheerily in step, now there is no deal so the fighting continues and Europe is united with Ukraine as though the war just started. And while I think China will do the smart thing and remain neutral, they could steal the spot of the number one global superpower if they united with Europe against Russia and USA (fat chance but just saying.)
Murican here. More of this please. We've swan-dived into some record setting 'fuck around', and desperately need a 'find out' that hurts enough to teach a lasting lesson.
You all need to swan dive the fuck out of it if you want this to stop.
The world cannot save you from yourselves. We will isolate you, abandon you, treat you as the untrustworthy former friend that you are. But none of that will matter if you don't fix your shit.
Right. But for the sake of everyone else, our government needs to be treated like the hostile nation it is.
Feels almost unbelievable to hear that there still are people and companies standing up for their values and principles even in the face of losing profits or comfort. I thought that true western values had finally died and we were collapsing but this give a tiny sliver of hope at least.
norway doesn't really count. they have too much independent wealth to need to play by rules set through bullying and abuse. and a natural solidarity because they don't need to concern themselves with economical risks or worries.
in other words Norway has "fuck you money"
Kinda nice to see it used for once. Is that how it feels to like a billionaire?
and an uncomfortably short distance from Russia
So what does this teach us? Independent wealth is the end-goal!
So does Switzerland...
Good. Some Americans need a little hurt in their lives to understand that this isn't what they thought it was.
Sucks to suck, but I hope my industry (auto manufacturing) suffers hard enough to wake up my coworkers 🤷
Good. As an American, I encourage all countries to do things like this.
Good.
Fuck us
Apparently we need the leopards to eat a lot more MAGA faces, fine by me. Better they should have full tummies before they hurt any more trans people.
Wonderful, it's time people got the memo, America are not the good guys.
I'm saying this as an American. I would love to see a world where America's Government was viewed with suspicion when acting in international affairs instead of Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room. Europe, YOU, are the adult in the room.
Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room.
We never did that though.
The dynamic was more like the US is the big rich kid with all the toys who sometimes bullies the other kids so it's better to have him on side.
Now you've elected a couple of literal spoiled rich bullies it makes it all a lot more obvious.
America has always been tolerated for political reasons. But noone in Europe has ever really looked up to the USA. You were useful to keep good relations with, (good in a fight). But you've always been regarded as loud, uncultured, and disturbingly patriotic. And honestly, if you look back at Europe's history, we're not exactly afraid of a fight.
Stay the fuck out of Greenland and Canada, and come talk to us when you elect a grownup.
I tried, but honestly until we get rid of Gerrymandering, Republicans will have a foothold no matter how blatantly unpopular and universally reviled they are
The problem is they aren't universally reviled. Trump still got 77M votes (almost half the popular vote). And that was in the full knowledge of how badly he fucked up the first time. But even if people didn't pay attention to the pandemic, and the Muslim ban, and the separation of children from their families, and the protests, and the insurrection, the man still behaves like a toddler with frontotemporal dementia (including sundowning on stage). Yeah gerrymandering is a definite problem, but the commercialisation of politics and the relentless rightwing propaganda is a much bigger one.
Yeah, but the thing is, Trump didn't gain any voters, Kamala merely failed to re-obtain votes Biden had one.
And since Voter Intimidation was in full swing and Elon is, according to Trump "Good with computers, so you don't REALLY need to vote", there's too much shenanigans
My point is that 77M people want trump to be president and that is 77M too many when you consider the shit show that was his first term. Even if a few million of those votes are fabricated, it's still a massive problem.
I'm sure he's planning on getting it back from Mother Russia.
Master Negotiator. He'll get on the phone with these guys and tell them tariffs are coming.
True! Then the company that no longer sells fuel to USA will make less profit when selling fuel to USA! What a punishment!
"From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world." - Donald Trump, Inauguration Day Jan 20 2025.
So much respect.
Trump is a dictator, dictators think "respect" and "fear" are interchangeable.
Refuelling in st Petersburg, Russia 🪆...
Fuck the US
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