That headline got me really excited before I realized they meant “in an app”.
It's just virtualization, the same way you would run a Debian VM under Windows or whatever.
yeah, but being able to replace Android would have been nice.
Why would you want to not use Android? Can't you just de-google your android if that's your concern? Android is made for mobile devices.
Feels backwards and you're still not fully in control.
How are you not fully in control when running a foss rom? The only thing you can't do (easily) is run a different Linux kernel due to drivers
The only phones that support it are either old or niche, I love my Google Pixel 9 and I would rather not give it up (I also love GraphineOS)
Spanish BQ manufacturer sold Ubuntu phones a while ago. I had one, and it felt great. Unfortunately the phone itself (the screen in particular) was pretty low quality, and the customer support not qualitative enough. Mine broke just by sitting in the couch with it in my pocket. That was a huge lost opportunity.
here is what you were looking for. https://mastodon.social/@flypig/113925580079997851 there are several native linux projects goin on.
This doesn't sound like proper linux to me. I want to be able to plug in a USB (or what ever the storage device would be, microUSB for phones I guess) and boot from that. Where 1 image works for any device of the same architecture. This is the main thing I dislike about ARM currently.
I don't think anybody expected that. This is just a shitty headline.
How about multi-booting via Ventoy?
My dream has been to have a phone that works like a phone until I get home and plug in a monitor and kbm then it's a full fledged PC. Think Dex but not shitty Samsung Android. While I'm dreaming while docked it could also utilize a desktop grade GPU.
May I introduce you to what already existed at one time? (Motorola Atrix 4G from 2011 with Ubuntu desktop when docked.)
Honestly the steamdeck shows we are getting close. It works like that, just in a slightly bigger form factor and without some of the phone hardware.
A little more tech advancement and I think this won't be that hard to do.
Dex is the closest I can get right now. I'd love to have one device. However I'll need to degoogle and foss more things. I rely on Google Too much for games and such.
Lil Debbie works on Android phones for quite a few years now, devs didn't wait on google to chroot the hell out of android.
This is just a Linux VM just like th Crostini in ChromeOS, so I'd expect similar 40%+ performance loss compares to for example proot container through Termux running natively.
The only thing this could probably offer would be giving you better OS GUI Integration into Android, like Crostini on a ChromeOS device. But if that is needed you might as well just use an Android port or an Android equivalent of your Linux software anyway, it's not like you'd ever want to run Matlab, GIMP or OpenFOAM on your Android phone with its tiny screen anyway LMAO
Isn't that Termux?
Yes, except google is slowly killing Termux with a thousand cuts, while they will kill this only after a few years.
They do? Can you elaborate?
Author faces regularly many issues when trying do make a new version of Termux to yet another set of googles demands or restrictions, sometimes unable to update play store version for years. As an (just) example, see this issue: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-Android-10
Sorry Google, PostmarketOS will scratch that itch and soon enough eat your lunch: https://postmarketos.org/
I like postmarketos, but lol. Lmao, even.
I am pretty sure it was possible even like 15 years ago through unofficial app on Google Play. What's new here?
It's now official™
I remember running some linux distro on my G1 wayy back in the day. Idk if it was debian, but it was a formative learning experience for me since it taught me what "chroot" was.
Can't believe it's been 10 years since Ms-Dos mobile.
Tested this on my Pixel 8a. Works as you would expect. Personally I have a little hard time coming up with use cases for this but I guess it's kinda cool.
Looks very similar to termux
Probably hella nerfed in comparison.
Does it have access to the same filesystem as Android? I've been looking for Android apps that can do something like dropbox's "online only" feature. Most cloud storage providers offer that on desktop but I've never found one that works on Android. It's just photo syncing or nothing usually, and even that doesn't work like I want.
Also, can it run uninterrupted in the background or is android going to unceremoniously kill it randomly like it does with normal apps?
Man I feel I'd almost wiped the debian install and added NixOS (nix package manager works fine under debian) using nixos-infect
A clean install and a night's sleep and I'll probably forget I was attempting this, but looks promising.
And I'm having issues writing / completing the install to /boot
Files are written to boot by the nixos-infect script, then disappear after sometime... If the VM is shutdown / rebooted I get the previously displayed unrecoverable error screen.
Might be an easier way to achieve this.
This part of the merge between Chrome OS and Android and is intended to replace Cros
Samsung’s DEX had a downloadable Linux VM running nearly a decade ago.
Motorola had something similar too. Forgot the phone model, but it ran a modified version of ubuntu when you put it in a dock.
Wasn't it just running Android in desktop mode?
Like the Nokia N900 did back in 2004 - except it was a real mobile OS (but fully yours)
While interesting, that's not really news.
I have been running bash
linux commands on my android device back in 2016 via Termux. it worked perfectly fine back then already, you could apt install
applications and python3
your script.
The problem is with other things. Android is dedicated to being actually usable on touch-screen devices. Installing desktop apps on Android would un-do that effect, so i guess it wouldn't make a lot of sense.
there's this thing https://furilabs.com/ but not FOSS; hopefully some of their hacks can make it into mobian or sumsuch
Is there an official source for this?
The article links to this blog post, but I did not see anything relevant in it:
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