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Home Assistant officially Matters (www.home-assistant.io)

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[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 7 points 11 months ago

Matter sounds neat and all, but it's still wireless on the 2.4 GHz band, so it will still have the same amount of noise that Zigbee does.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

That’s Thread. Matter is an application layer standard, which currently supports running over WiFi, Ethernet or Thread.

Matter could run over new wireless systems in the future.

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 5 points 11 months ago

Ah, my bad, forgot about the threads thing. :)

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Besides that, Thread is pretty low-bandwidth and low-noise. It's designed to sip battery life from devices.

2.4Ghz just allows it to be built into tons of devices without an extra chip. Every Google Hub, Alexa, or Apple hub supports it.

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

WiFi is already pretty universal in smart automation systems, Matter doesn't matter much when the underlying protocol is Wifi. And since 99% of Matter devices are WiFi...

[-] claude_flammang@dju.social 1 points 11 months ago

@thehatfox
It builds on IPV6, so any medium capable of transporting IPV6 can potentially be used.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago

or over wired systems that are older

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Matter is the protocol not the method isn’t it? Matter works over thread etc

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 2 points 11 months ago

Forgot that distinction. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

If esphome get matter and thread, the DIY smart home device ecosystem will go from great to amazing. Right now esphome just has trouble with truly low power devices due to WiFi, polling, standoff, sleep, etc... Matter instead of the esphome API will probably solve a lot of that.

[+] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My Matter (and Zigbee, and Z-Wave) hub is a laptop I paid 300.00 for almost 10 years ago, when I wanted something cheap for the semi truck.

I run Home Assistant on it now. I have both a $40 zwave USB stick, and a similarly priced Zigbee stick.

The software for the hub comes with HA. Just install the matter server

Their zbt-1 dongle can do either zigbee or thread, but matter does not technically need anything else. Thread does, but not Matter. Install Matter Server addon and you can use any matter WiFi device.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Tried a couple matter devices. Ended up having to create an account with the manufacturer. Was there truly a local option? Who knows. So far I haven't been impressed.

[-] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Opposite experience, only 2 Matter devices so far but both working on HA with external network access cut off in my router after I previously had them in Tuya.

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