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Summary

A father whose unvaccinated six-year-old daughter became the first U.S. measles death in 10 years remains steadfast in his anti-vaccine beliefs.

The Mennonite man from Seminole, Texas told The Atlantic, "The vaccination has stuff we don't trust," maintaining that measles is normal despite its near-eradication through vaccination.

His stance echoes claims by HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr., who initially downplayed the current North American outbreak before changing his position under scrutiny.

Despite his daughter's death, the father stated, "Everybody has to die."

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It takes a special kind of crazy to say vaccines have untrustworthy ingredients over the dead body of your unvaccinated child.

Mennonite man

Ah... right okay.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 16 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, the Electric Amish.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Dude has to cope this hard to justify how he and his family killed their daughter.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 48 points 2 weeks ago

Translation: my beliefs mean more to me than my dead child ever could.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

He can contort himself with the knowledge that he actually pulled off the sacrifice of Abraham.

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[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 43 points 2 weeks ago

What a fucking idiot. He should be locked up for murder.

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

He seems quite content with his daughter dying as long as he doesn’t get tricked by the vaccine crowd. What a winner.

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[-] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 weeks ago

This shit ought to be considered negligence and reason to at least remove any other kids from the home. Poor six year old was failed by her family and the state.

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

everybody has to die >

But not that young and not from a preventable disease.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly now that she's dead he has no choice but to defend his stance, because admitting the truth would mean being left with the knowledge that he killed his own daughter.

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[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Hope he told his daughter she had to die to make liberals cry

[-] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago
[-] TheTurner@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago

He's Mennonite. They don't believe in any English medicine/science. If someone dies, it's God's will.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

I'll never understand the position. If a deadly disease is God's will, then so is the vaccine which prevents it.

Mennonites have no problem using blades to cut their hair, wearing glasses when their vision is faulty, or using soap after wiping their ass. Why are they against medicine?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Because they don't like it, and like all religious groups... if They don't like it, then its against gods will. And if they like it, then it is gods will.

Which is why god hates vaccines, but loves child rape and wife beating, at least for these Amish-type religious communities. (and probably most of the republican party....)

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

“I don’t trust science so I will choose death instead”

Fucking brilliant people. No doubt they are Trump supporters.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

... he's a Mennonite, lot of them won't even use the internal combustion engine. It's one of those low-tech sects of Christianity like Amish.

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[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

"Stuff in it that we don't trust."

Better to be dead than injected with chemicals that might make you autistic? Gay? A liberal? What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

As a parent, I am so angry. How can you look at your child and be more afraid of the lesser outcomes (not that they even exist, but still) and choose death? What a failure of the parents. And shame on every single person in the media that let this bullshit spiral out of control. That poor girl.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago

What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

The article says the man is a Mennonite, which means he probably believes in an afterlife. In his mind his child still exists and he'll get to see her again when he passes and spends eternity there.

I pretty firmly believe that afterlife beliefs account for a pretty significant distortion of values in people and helps explain a large number of frankly insane behaviours. Preventing deaths becomes much less important when there's an eternal paradise waiting for you and the "real" risk is doing something that bars you from going there.

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

"The vaccination has stuff we don’t trust"

I would bet money this man could not name a single ingredient in a measles vaccine.

[-] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

This is why he doesn't trust it I guess

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

What about Big Mac ingredients?

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Despite his daughter’s death, the father stated, “Everybody has to die.”

Jesus, I can't imagine being so into cult beliefs that I would have that attitude about my own kids, and actively work to make it happen sooner to boot.

I mean sure, we all will die, but it goes against the most basic biological imperative of all living things to make sure their kids outlive them. Must be some strong Koolaid. Dude needs to fuck off with that Jonestown-isque mindset.

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[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 weeks ago

He does not deserve to have kids.

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[-] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

Just fuckin chuggin that koolaid

[-] evergreen@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

So basically he'd rather they just die than live with "stuff we don't trust". If "everybody has to die", then why care about what's in a vaccine in the first place? Extreme cognitive dissonance to support an ideology.

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[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

You know what else has stuff I don't trust? The fucking measles.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He should have died too

Actually no, instead of.

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[-] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

I suppose doubling down on being an utter useless fool is still easier on the ego than owning up to having negligently murdered your own daughter.

So he's a coward too. Lovely.

[-] SomeChick@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

I bet he'd be more upset if his son died, not his daughter

[-] Cassandra3MadScene@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Magical Sky Daddy logic strikes again

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

You can only hope one day the asshole realizes he killed his kid and can't live with his failure.

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[-] gamer@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

Is this a case of total brainwash, or just a case of a parent who didn't want his kid? Measles seems like a socially acceptable form of post-birth abortion today.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

He's a Mennonite, pretty sure they've been opposed to what basically counts as modern medicine for a long time. The Old Order ones live similar to the Amish.

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah... You totally can't trust a vaccine with 97% efficacy and a negligible mortality rate that's existed for over 80 years versus an extremely infectious virus with a 40% mortality rate and no effective treatment or cure... If only there were extensive scientific studies on these things that were easily and freely accessible to the public! Why do we have to live in such a dark and uninformed time!?

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[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

I sort of think we should be really mean to these people.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, this fucker should be arrested, kids taken away and he should be housed in a care facility where he slowly can be weaned off the conspiracy theories until he's normal again

Yes, I'm advocating for forced treatments of these fuckers. Hell, I'd deport and quarantine them in a remote island where they can slowly die of diseases and what not, I don't care.

If in 2025 you still need to believe in dumb shit like unicorns, skydaddies, and conspiracy theories like a 5 year old then you don't have the right to live liek any other healthy adult, you should be considered mentally deficient and treated as such. Sorry, you are not competent to raise children, these poor kids deserve better.

Lock em um

I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. These people habe been ruining this world since forever and it has to stop. I'm out of are, I'm out of mercy, I'm out of patience

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Downvotes from people who don't like this authoritarian stance.

Fuck em, this is one authoritarian stance I share. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to feed them nothing but fruit, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to leave them in a hot car, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to not get them vaccines, you should be arrested.

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[-] brezel@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously his god didn't want him to procreate.

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[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The conundrum here is that admitting his stance was wind would take a level of intelligence that would have had him vaccinate his child in the first place.

I know that's oversimplifying it, but the point still stands.

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Guy's almost happy his kid died. That should be a crime. Even worse, he's happy to have been at the helm of her death. Disgusting.

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