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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 168 points 3 weeks ago

Wage theft is bigger than all other theft, but far fewer people are dragged onto the sidewalk and strangled to death for it. Maybe that should change.

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

"When the truth walks away, everybody stays 'cuz the truth about the world is that crime does pay. So if you walk away, who is gonna stay? 'Cuz I like to think the world is a better place."

[-] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

Underrated Offspring jam! I feel like Offspring get written off as pop-punk but are generally underrated as political artists.

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Listening to that album nowadays is hair-raising. It's almost as though people have been screaming in Americans faces for decades about what's becoming impossible to ignore, I know I was singing these lyrics since 1999:

"Well, I'd like to tell you all about my dream

It's a place where strip malls abound

And diversion's mere moments away

Where culture's defined by the ones least refined

And you'll be left behind if you don't fit in

It's all distorted in Americana my way

Well, fuck you

Whoa, whoa, whoa, well, my dream has come true

Whoa, whoa, whoa, my vision has come true

Now give me my cable, fast food

Four-by's, tat's right away

I want it right now 'cause

My ge-generation don't like to wait

My future's determined by thieves, thugs and vermin

It's quite an excursion but it's okay

Everything's backwards in Americana my way

Well, fuck you

Whoa, whoa, whoa, well, my dream has come true

Whoa, whoa, whoa, my vision has come true

Yeah, it's all coming true

I'm a product of my environment

So don't blame me, I just work here

But I wanna fuck it up

My rights are denied by those least qualified

Trading profit for pride but it's, it's okay

Everything's backwards in Americana my way

Well, fuck you

Whoa, whoa, whoa, my nightmare has come true

Whoa, whoa, whoa, my nightmare has come true

Yeah, it's all coming true

Yeah, it's all coming true"

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure during the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have nourished your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.

James 5:1-6

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Dayum! New favorite bible passage for being obnoxious towards hypocrites with just dropped!

And by "just" I mean "a thousand years ago", or whenever that part of their book was written 🤷

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure this global company only did it in NY for some reason though, better not look into this globally. Wouldn't want to do that now!

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe only NY had the foresight to make this practice illegal?

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

This is why, regardless of who delivers food the few times I order out, I always tip in cash (don't have to claim it, company can't steal it.)

[-] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

US workers do have to claim tips though. Whether they do or not, and how enforceable that is, is a different story.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Canada here, I believe ours do as well, but easier to hide when in cash and company can't steal it. I had heard of this when DD et. al. was relatively new and decided then cash was the way. It is up to the employee to do or not do

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 weeks ago

Few things.

  1. Corporations are not people. Laws need to change and loopholes need to be closed.
  2. The rich need to pay their way. Laws need to change and loopholes need to be closed.
[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The question is how are we gonna go about that.

[-] Aneb@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

🐷✂🗑 I had to get creative, my keyboard doesn't have an guillotine emoji

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Pig-scissors-thrash is kinda clear tbh.

Luigi started. Who will take up the mantle?

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

All I can tell you is it has to get a lot worse before it gets better. I don't see change coming without bloodshed because those in power and their enablers don't want either of those things to happen.

[-] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We start by closing loopholes and making the rich pay their way.

And if they don't? Guillotines, baby!

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm all for that, truly.

How do we start?

We've been talking about this online for as long as I remember, and my beard is starting to get grey hairs. To be honest, it's been pumping up recently, but it's still just unorganised discontent instead of an actual organised effort to do something. And those do exist, yeah, but they don't rival the power of the large companies.

So I'm starting to lose my optimism.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Organizing is hard and I don't know how to do it, either. It doesn't help that a lot of media is owned by conservatives, and the police/gov't historically hasn't hesitated to murder organizers (see: fred hampon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton )

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[-] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 weeks ago

They steal from everyone. My wife was stuck in a hotel with no room service about a year ago and didn't feel up to walking for food. She found that she could get a free year doodash subscription through her Amazon Prime. She joined, got her food and promptly cancelled the subscription. We've just been through the joy of getting a refund for two months of doordash that hit our credit card.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago

We have a legal system that protects the rich and punishes the poor. Luigi gave us a taste of what the opposite could look like.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Should I DM the mod of this community and double check if it's okay for me to upvote? Oh silly me... this is lemmy. Of course it's okay to upvote this fact of life!

[-] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 weeks ago
[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They only have to go up to minimum wage.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if you could create an argument for this blatant disparity and how punishments are meted out to show how penalties for shoplifting and personal theft crimes are cruel and unusual. If stealing 17 million comes with less penalty than stealing 1700 then the penalties for 1700 are therefore unusual right?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I suppose step 1 in that line of thinking is ending prison slavery and the systemic violence prisoners and guards inflict on the incarcerated.

Not that we can't do two things at once...

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[-] zell565@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

"Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility" Ambrose Bierce

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

"If it's done out of greed, they let you do it"

[-] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, that's basically how the entire hospitality industry operates at this point.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The early history behind tipping was basically to not pay black people and keep some simulacrum of slavery. Black people were historically pretty predominant in the hospitality industry - a good way to pay them shit, and make them dependent on the generosity of white people.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 weeks ago

Also I believe I found the related source: https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2025/attorney-general-james-secures-1675-million-doordash-cheating-delivery-workers

I didn't see anything on a quick read about how they came up with these numbers, or if there are any more serious penalties. Seems like a pretty light penalty.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

NZ parliament recently passed an act clarifying that wage theft is theft and that individuals may be criminally liable if they commit it: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/member/2023/0245/4.0/whole.html

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