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The only real difference is Harris would have voiced disapproval rather than approval. Netanyahu seems pretty adamant about following this course. I doubt any conservative president would be able to stop it.

The strawmen keep getting bigger and bigger in these threads. Pretty soon they will be so big we will be able to host burning man. While I am sure said voters do exist, they were not the millions of votes that the democrats needed.

It would be incredible if democrats got rid of First-past-the-post boring in the blue states they control so people could be free to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect. But capitalists hate competition.

As we can see by democratic inaction on reforming the voting system at the state level, democrats want to continue the hostage situation they present in every election. This is not democracy. Forcing people to vote for your preference will never be democracy. Thus the voting system flaws must be treated like the crisis that it is.

We must be pushing for electoral reform in every state, but why is it so difficult to get the supposed democracy advocates in the democratic party to start moving towards making these critical reforms happen in states they control?

Feel free to make excuses for the democrats. Feel free to attack me all you want. State level rlectoral reform will continue to be the nonviolent way out of this mess. I hope yall come around, even if it probably is to late.

it's about hurting the right people. whomever you need to hurt to push your agenda through, that's who needs a whoopin', but once that's been accomplished, you can go back to hurting the people you really want to hurt. that's "Freedom", American Style

I too would like to come across one in the wild, because despite people constantly bitching about them, I've yet to see evidence that they exist

I have no idea what you're on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he'd be better for Palestine. A minority people refused to vote Kamala because of her open support of genocide, but that doesn't mean they voted for Trump.

In either case, why is it their fault and not the fault of the democratic establishment exactly? Shouldn't your ire be for establishment democrats who refused to stop supporting a genocide? They could've done that, you know. This might blow your fucking mind but democrats can actually do stuff. No one was holding Kamala secretly at gun point and forcing her to support genocide. She refused to stop and instead parroted the usual talking points of Israel's "right to defend itself." Shouldn't that be the subject of your anger and frustration? Shouldn't you be furious at the democratic establishment becoming more and more conservative as time goes on? Shouldn't you be outraged at the way democrats persecute the progressive elements within their own political party? Instead of angry at the handful of people who tried to make their voices heard on the subject of literally funding and arming genociders?

Like what the fuck do you think political change within the democratic party looks like? Do you think that defending the establishment from anything and everything is how you get them to change? As each successive administration comes and goes the democrats have moved further and further to the right. They are well into conservative territory ideologically, and that should be immediately obvious to anyone paying attention. Gavin Newsom outright supported wild transphobia like forcing trans women into men's prisons just last week. And he's not the only one who's done this. The democratic party is not a party of progressives. They only support minorities until they feel it inconveniences them in any way.

I would love to meet the people that thought they could use even worse genocide to excuse their own genocide.

I like how the people that a year ago were telling you to shut up about Palestine because it was hurting Biden are now trying to guilt trip you about Palestine

I don't think it ever went out of fashion unfortunately.