It was also a grand experiment in war fighting, one that would not only help the Ukrainians but reward the Americans with lessons for any future war.

How hateful this reads after 700,000 Russian and 435,000 Ukraine soldiers died and the clear signs of this being a proxy war of NATO vs Russia. Ukraine was manipulated and used, Russia provoked. NATO openly admitted to this and even though it's still covered up by the media in lockstep when the war eventually grinds to a halt, the Ukranians will ask questions.

I suspect there will be decades and decades of recrimination and hate from Ukraine towards both the east and the west. A fascist Ukraine could become a terrible security problem for both Europe and Russia. Ukraine is good at propaganda, as seen with the KyivNotKiev campaign, and they will drag Europe down.

All this death and suffering, for what? Cheap real estate in the east?

First the hill and now the ny times; who among the liberal media will be next to admit the reality that led to this needless Ukrainian tragedy and will the western world acknowledge it?

We knew about this stuff, but I guess it's really only official once the NYT writes it down.

Apparently the way to write about one nuclear power being heavily involved in strikes on another nuclear power, except for actually pushing the button, which they strongly advise their proxy to do, is to make it kinda cool and daring and not terrifying. This reads like some character drama. Note how the Ukrainian characters seem a lot more flawed.

That they used euphemisms, like "point of interest" instead of "target", to obfuscate what they're doing isn't that surprising, but seriously fuck these guys. Learn this one weird trick on how to avoid WW3: just call it something else. I wonder how insane someone has to be to be a general.

Also makes me wonder what they're leaving out of that story. The Ukrainians did that one on their own, trust us. Sink Russian flagship? No US involved. Invade Kursk? US didn't know about it. Attack Russian oil infra? Yeah not cool Ukraine, not cool. Also no word about who blew up that dam or Nordstream.

Everywhere else though? Yeah basically the US did all that. Total involvement.

We're told it only went south when the Ukrainians stopped following orders. Not doing exactly what the US says is bad apparently. It's either reckless or stupid, and it actually for real doomed their 2023 offensive. For sure that one would have succeeded if the stupid Ukrainians listened.

Great partnership guys, why oh why would anyone be wary if the US actually has their best interests in mind, let alone the best interest of the their soldiers or population? No, you see, you need to charge up that hill now! Don't look at it first! Don't shell it first! We swear it's just a small number of Russians. And no, we don't trust you enough to tell you how we know that. So risk averse these Ukrainians! And btw, I see a lot 18-25 year olds running around in Kiev, what's up with that? Looks like you are not taking this very seriously Mr. Zelensky! Looks like you don't want to win!

Paywalled. I guess it stays secret