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Not to mention the stigma, especially from unrelated doctors who see the med in your file. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by Droggelbecher@lemmy.world to c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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A red button. Image says: 'Would you press the button?' [results of pressing the button:] there exists a pill that makes your disability a LOT less debilitating BUT it's near-impossible to get because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun and the government doesn't want them to.

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

What's recreational about it?

"Oh boy! I feel amazing! I can get out of bed in the night without falling over my floordrobe!"

Yeah, sure... Super fun.

[-] nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

For people with ADHD, some ADHD medication has a calming & focusing effect, that same medication has an energizing and euphoric for some (not all) neurotypical people, while also increasing their focus at the same time.

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

floordrobe

TIL. This sounds amazing, ty.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun

How terrible!!!! But what specific horrible drug is this? so many fun illegal ones.

[-] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's Adderall.

[-] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

It's a prescription drug like any other, if u take it while diagnosed it'll js make you normal, but if you take it recreationally it'll act like a drug with all the side-effects.

If you take morphine for example, when in a fuckton of pain, it'll get rid of your pain, but if you take it recreationally it'll work like any other recreational drug does. It's obviously very simplified ik, and I could've worded it better but it gets my point across.

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Neurotypical people: Can't wait to party!

flicker: The laundry ain't gonna do itself and I'm not allowed to do it without drugs soooo...

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

I knew there was a reason that gif drew my attention.

It's a mind-control device!

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 43 points 1 day ago

I mean...I guess there would be a stigma attached, but idk anyone who's a loser enough to really care. Adderall is great for people with debilitating ADHD, and it's also wonderful as a party drug with relatively few negative side effects (if not abused).

People need to be less dumb, lose the stigma, open up the supply & legalize it....as somebody else said an "adult" with $20 can go buy a handle (1.75L) of alcohol/liquid death with no guard rails, so what exactly are we so scared of, here? People getting the drugs they need? People more alert & honed in at their job? People having lots of fun at a party?! Oh my god, we simply can't have that. 🙄

Don't be dumb. Just don't be dumb, yes, it really is that simple. Legalization will inevitably bring about regulation & moderation.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

People are dumb though. And regulations need to account for that.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

True, but regulations. Prohibition is the absence of regulation

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Nah. Lack of regulations handles that just as well. They can die from stupidity, I don't care, we need to make stupid fatal again, there's no way a lot of these mouth breathing fucks could have survived in the wild.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

They don't just hurt themselves though. They damage infrastructure, add hospital workloads, and harass people on public transit

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not saying there would not be a difficult adjustment period....Oh wait. Are you suggesting a more direct method?

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Guess I'm a loser for caring that doctors have refused to treat me unless I go off the ADHD meds then

[-] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Doctor's who don't suck at treating anything that requires controlled substances are few and far between. Many are ignorant about the actual laws governing scheduled substances so they just try to minimize prescribing any even if it means worse care for the patient.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 day ago

No, that does not apply to you. You are not the one being critical, imposing a stigma onto others, and refusing care. You are the victim or affected party, not the aggressor causing problems.

It's like saying...people that mug others on the streets & steal their money are real losers. They should make their own money. I'm not pointing to the person they rob & call them losers. ¯\(°_o)/¯

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Ooooh I thanks for clarifying!

[-] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

As someone who was denied treatment for my ADHD because I am able to hold a job (diagnosed late in life) I'm curious: why on earth would doctors deny treatment the other way around too? That sounds so illogical.

If I'm intruding too much - just dont reply, I understand.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I was denied treatment for ADHD too, because I have a bachelor's! Old psych said even a high school diploma is impossible for ADHD folks. Glad I was able to switch to a new psych who diagnosed me at 27.

Ok so I have autoimmune hyperthyroidism. This, among other things, gives me low blood pressure and a high heart rate. By 'refusing to treat me' I mostly mean that doctors have immediately jumped to the conclusion that my ADHD meds are the one and only cause, refusing further tests. Saying I need to go off the meds and if the symptoms persist I should come back. Even though I know and told them that I've had these symptoms for years, and have only been on these meds for half a year. This shows up in my file. I've also had a GP refuse to renew my prescription because he, too, thought I couldnt possibly have adhd since I'm educated and employed. I've also repeatedly felt like doctors think I'm just drug seeking instead of in actual need of these meds. Like, for example, being told that it's irresponsible that I take them by a different GP.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That..that never happened did it Homer? (Like for FFS they can see why you have a prescription and it's not like they've never heard of ADD)

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 60 points 1 day ago

Bastards heard someone who needed it to function normally describe it as feeling like they are gaining superpowers and now think it's the drug from Limitless.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

...ignoring that going from disabled to average would feel like gaining superpowers.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For me it's, "... But you hate the way the medicine makes you feel so you refuse to take it despite knowing it would make many aspects of your life more manageable."

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Common problem with a lot of meds, including antidepressants and antipsychotics. I knew someone who didn't want to take their meds because it made them fat, and that was to counteract delusions and paranoia from schizophrenia. It's been decades, so I think the meds are better but the point is, yeah, lots of people have to pick and even if the side effects are less bad, you're actively having to choose to cause that to yourself.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Totally. And for me, I'm able to (at least appear to) be an upstanding, productive member of society without ADHD meds, so I can get away with not taking them.