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Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

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Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago

I thought of a few stupid things, but everyone talking about kids made me think of this one.

I am strongly against Trickle down suffering.

"I put up with this terrible thing when I was your age, and even though we could stop it from happening to anyone, it's important that we make YOU suffer through it too."

Hazing, bullying, unfair labor laws, predatory banking and more. It's really just the "socially acceptable" cycle of abuse.

[-] phanto@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

I agree, and I take it this far: "I worked hard and paid for my house, why should some lazy loafer get housing for free? I paid 24,000$ in tuition, why should kids get free college?" I think that, at some point, one guy has to be the first guy to benefit from progress, and all the people who didn't benefit just have to suck it up. I would 100% pay a much higher tax rate if it meant that homelessness was gone, hunger was gone, kids got free education... I'm Canadian, so I don't need to say this about health care. Yeah, I paid an awful lot of mortgage, but if someone else gets a free house? Good!

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago

Being "proud" of your acheivements is fine.

Being "proud" of your country or your state or your football team that you're not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.

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[-] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago

The pay rate of the lowest paid worker of any company or institution should be somehow legally and directly tied to the pay rate of the highest paid executive.

If the executive wants to make more money and gets a raise, then so do the workers.

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[-] CybranM@feddit.nu 69 points 1 week ago

That cats should remain indoors. Pet cats kill approximately 2.4 billion birds in the US alone, not to mention all the other animals that they also kill. I love cats as much as the next guy but keep them indoors for the love of nature

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[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago

Circumcision is multilation

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

unpopular moral take: All religions are absurd cop outs and you should choose your own model for how to be a good person.

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[-] traches@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 week ago

Absolute free speech is overrated. You shouldn’t be able to just lie out your ass and call it news.

The fact that the only people who had any claim against Fox for telling the Big Lie was the fucking voting machine company over lost profits tells you everything you need to know about our country

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[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 week ago

The stock market should be illegal in all countries. Its basically a legalized gambling ponzii scheme.

Retirement also shouldn't be tied to this type of system.

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[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 week ago

Suicide shouldn't be illegal. If you've tried treatments and seen a therapist for years but just want out - you should be able to schedule a day to be put to sleep.

I think its immoral not to give people a dignified way out.

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Mine: Kids are pretty great, actually. They are smarter than you think and can make sense of a lot of stuff you wouldnt expect them to. You should treat their thoughts and feelings with the same respect that you would give an adult.

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[-] anon_most@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Open borders. I strongly believe in open borders as a moral imperative. Human beings have been migrating for survival, resources, and exploration for over 20,000 years. The concept of nation-states imposing constraints on movement is a modern invention that doesn't align with the inherent human need for freedom of mobility. People in the southwestern states of the US with Mexican roots will tell you "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us."

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[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

Killing yourself is ok. You don't know what it's like to be them and be in their head.

I'll never do it. Even in darkest depths, but respect anyone's right to say peace out.

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago

Housing as an investment is wrong.

The price of basic human needs should not be tied to the rise and fall of the stock market, nor should ones retirement depend on the hyper inflated values of houses. 500K+ for a small house is absolute price gouging bullshit, regardless of location.

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[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

I don't know if it's a moral per se, but I think nobody should be able to decline being an organ donor. It is an absolute and unforgivable waste to let bodies rot/burn when they could save someone. There is no reason, no good reason, to not be an organ donor. There is no good reason to be able, even after you're dead, to just let people needlessly die.

And religious reasons are even more moronic. What God, if you truly believe he's good and righteous and loving, would want you to let someone else die if you could save them? Why is your meat sack more important than somebody's life? Don't most people believe the soul leaves the body? It's just meat.

I've had countless arguments about this, but nobody has ever been able to give me a compelling reason as to why letting someone die to protect a corpse is right or just.

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[-] CptHacke@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago

I believe that the more wealth a person has, the more likely it is that they abused and harmed others to achieve that wealth. Therefore, the more wealthy a person is, the less I trust and respect them.

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

Violence against oil company shareholders is justified defense of yourself and others. Starting with a face slap for small-time diversified 401k oil investors.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Death penalty is wrong. Also vengeance prison is wrong, VERY unpopular opinions. I can't tell you how many people will full on yell at you if you say this in public. I think rehab prison is what should happen for any prisoner that isn't in for murder one or rape, domestic abuse. Financial crimes? House arrest, monitored assets, no access to exploitable systems. Property crime? Make sure they have a legitimate job, parole, house arrest if serious, garnished wages. We could have the vast majority of prisoners on parole or house arrest and in treatment, or jobs programs and out prison population would be at a normal percentage compared to the rest of the world.

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Simply being family doesn't mean you get to remain in my life. Cut off anyone who is toxic or otherwise not good for your life and health. This includes parents.

After a decade it is still surprising to me how many people seem appalled by my no contact situation. I'm sorry, but I've wasted enough of my life on them and wishing for a fantasy dynamic that will never exist.

"But they're your blood..."

So what.

"But they're your family..."

No they're not. I made new family.

Some people have really judged me for this decision. I judge others as they complain about their toxic families they never do anything about.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 week ago

The death penalty makes sense, but only for CEOs or politicians who knowingly make choices that result in the deaths of hundreds. The Boeing CEO should have been executed for knowing negligence that resulted in that string of crashes.

That's because there is much less of a chance of "getting the wrong person", since the buck has to stop there, the fish smells from the head, and it is the one situation where the value of deterrence trumps rehabilitation or other concerns.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I have a little bit of a different take on this. If we're going to kill companies for their crime, which we should cuz apparently they're people and therefore should have to pay for the crimes like people do, why not just kill companies? Instead of pretending a CEO is not just going to be replaced by another CEO with the exact same morals, cuz they all are, let's actually kill the company. Revoke it's corporate charter. Kill the thing that makes it a company. Kill the thing that protects it from retribution. Kill the things that keep all those investors and stockholders who are constantly praying for more and higher numbers safe from consequences.

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[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 37 points 1 week ago
  • The illusion that we are "rational" has done more damage than good, and if we were to just embrace that emotions are not just real, but a stronger influence on people's behaviour (and therefore reality) than any facts, we might start getting somewhere as a species.
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[-] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Veganism. It's interesting to see how even seemingly very moral people throw logic out the door when the topic turns to not killing animals.

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[-] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

If you cannot cook yourself a basic meal (I'm talking boil water, dump a box of pasta in, cook it, strain it, then add red sauce from a jar level of basic), you have failed as a human being. An adult using the whole excuse of "I just can't cook" is pathetic and inexcusable unless you have genuine mental incapacities that prevent you from learning a basic recipe and how to use a stovetop, especially now with access to the internet/videos teaching how to cook.

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[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Stealing is OK, the ok-ness of the stealing is inversely proportional to the wealth of the person you steal from.

If you steal 100 dollars from someone who only has 1000 dollars, that's reprehensible, but if you can nick a few million off a billionaire fucking go for it.

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[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago

HRT should be available to trans kids. it seems I'm increasingly alone in this belief, depressingly, looking at the political situation around the world.

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[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago

I have to agree IP is against nature but there's not really any other way to route data over a network.

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Eating and using animals when there is a plant-based alternative is wrong and should not be done.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

I think people should pay for software, including open source software. Don’t get me wrong, I love open source. I’ve probably spent multiple thousands of hours writing and maintaining open source software. That’s only because I have free time and like to do it. I’ve made $0 doing it, even though several companies use my software. If it started affecting my life negatively, I’d have to stop.

We pay for things like video games, but it’s incredibly difficult to make money in open source, even though the time investment can be just as much for the developers. I guess my point is, if there’s an open source project you like or you think is valuable, toss the devs a donation.

The model I like is free for personal use/paid for commercial use, but doing that in open source is practically impossible as a small dev. Big tech companies should be required to support the open source devs they rely on, imho.

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[-] Owlboi@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago

having kids is a right that should be earned. full assessment and parenthood training course required.

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[-] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago

There is virtue in minding your own business. If it doesn't effect you directly you don't need an opinion on it and you certainly shouldn't share it or expect anyone who is effected to care what you think. You're a bad person if you support people who want to use force to control how other people live their lives. You're evil if you would use force to control how someone else lives their life.

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[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

Prostitution should be legalized everywhere. With regulation of course to ensure the protection of the workers and clients.

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[-] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

it's okay to tell billionaires to kill themselves

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[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 28 points 1 week ago

Freedom of religion is important and religions shouldnt receive special treatment

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The purpose of an education is to learn how to think, not how to work.

A lot of universities are being treated as training centers for the world of work - and this is not ok.

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[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

People shouldn't be jumping through hoops to conceive their own child while there are already children in need of a home

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 25 points 1 week ago

Monogamy is very often an extremely toxic factor in many relationships.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Victims should be the ones to decide whether forgiveness is deserved. no one else.

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

A society's moral character is best judged by how it treats its least, not by how it treats the average, or median, or best.

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[-] bunkyprewster@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The free movement of people is a human right!

Note that capital is free to go whatever it wants to.

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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

To quote Margaret Thatcher, "a man who doesn't own a car by the age of 26 can count himself a failure."

I heavily disagree with that statement. Everyone has reasons not to drive. From disability, to cities being designed for walking and public transport, to being opposed to the pollution that is caused as a result of it, to not wanting to participate in traffic congestion, to not being able to fucking afford one, to being so bad at driving that you just give up after failing that license test multiple times, or to simple personal preference. Are all these people failures apparently? How does that make sense? Well, I guess the people who give up after failing the license test are, but everyone else??

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago

All drugs should be legal, but bodily autonomy is to high a purity test for everyone on planet earth.

Admit it everyone, capitalists will not let us live in peace. At least let me get high to numb the pain of existence.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

From my point of view of life, it feels like the belief of "Do unto others as you would like others to do to you" is no longer something most people seem to believe in.

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[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago

Ideally children should be raised by more than two people.

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[-] emberinmoss@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

I'll just keep being a nuisance here and say it. I genuinely do like this instance but I can't make sense of the infatuation for the AI here when isn't this part of the problem? AI "art" generators are fundamentally wrong and harmful to the artistic community. Artists are part of the nerd crowd too. We studied like crazy to hone our craft. There are a few traumatic historic events that the use of AI art theft machines harken back to. In more recent history, fascist regimes have tried to erase art altogether, or covet it for themselves. The same can be said for colonists, and it was to our chagrin a casually accepted part of Western culture to incorporate all sorts of bastardized appropriations of beautiful things they'd seen that didn't belong to them. It's just something to think about.

At the end of the day, people are thoughtlessly using a machine that takes the hard work of countless artists (of all different walks of life, different classes, backgrounds, mediums) to spit out uncanny, empty slop.

I'll keep saying it. And it may take years to undo this shit if ever. That's fine.

Okay, a pretty decent amount of people feel similarly as I do on this topic, but here I just feel like an outlier at times due to the number of pro-AI slop communities. Then again, I also notice that only a handful of the same people run those communities and contribute to them. I guess it's because we're a smaller community and I'm also a negative Nancy, so I tend to notice those glaring issues more here. I think it's important to get this message across on here, because why do we want to emulate even one ounce of Musk's energy here? Fuck that. Reddit already has their Midjourney sh-stuff. And they are not like us. So, we should strive to be better than Reddit.

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I think immigration laws are inherently a violation of universal human rights. What is a more basic expression of freedom and liberty than being able to choose where in the world to build your life?

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[-] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago

It’s okay to call stupid people stupid to their face - them, their ideas, whatever it is that they’re doing dumb. In the U.S. we’ve gone too far over on the “tolerate all people and their views” which has allowed fascism and MAGAts to gain far too much power - putting idiots in their place is (or at least would have been) the best way put it back where it belongs.

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