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Unneeded new distro(s) and their immaturity. (lemmy.world)
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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 183 points 4 weeks ago

Cybersecurity engineers and pentesters don't need Kali or Parrot. You don't need Proxmox to use LXC and KVM. You don't need OpenMediaVault to have Samba and NFS shares. You don't need Clonezilla to make use of the OCS toolkit. You don't need LMDE to have a Debian OS with Cinnamon and nonfree drivers installed, or Endeavour to have Arch with KDE Plasma.

But it's sure as shit good to have everything packed together and preconfigured by professionals.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago

Or if not professionals at least someone who knows more about it than yourself.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 22 points 4 weeks ago

And even if they don't, they know enough to do it to a level I am happy to not bother doing it myself.

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[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 weeks ago

Clonezilla is more like an app that comes with an OS on a liveCD for convenience, as it's troublesome to use the very OS you're cloning.

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[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago

Proxmox does add extended hardware support, as does Kali. Parrot enables necessary repos and kernel modifications for Red and Blue team workflows. I don’t know enough about DEs to speak about the others but those three don’t apply to the meme.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

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[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 9 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not sure I'd go to the lengths of using OMV just to have a samba share.

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[-] nesc@lemmy.cafe 114 points 4 weeks ago

Actually, create as many distros as you like and can!

[-] ogeist@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago

Hannah Montana 2: Electric Boogaloo Distro Incoming!!!!!!

[-] SinkingLotus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

featuring Dante from Devil May Cry!

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[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Except for distros like Apartheid Linux ... maybe uncreate those.

[-] klu9@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 weeks ago

Musk has a distro???

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[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 89 points 4 weeks ago

I mean, bait aside, creating a new distro with an existing package manager allows you to set up a different set of default packages and even add your own new/updated ones. That's the value of it there.

[-] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 weeks ago

Eh I guess, but really just define your own meta packages and use arch 😄

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago

This should be in c/ControversialOpinions.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Take it a step further and declaratively configure your entire installation with nixos

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

But that doesn't deserve to count as a separate distro. At best it's just a variant, like the relationship between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.

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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago

Or do, that guy isn't your boss. If he is, what are you doing listening to him about non work stuff he seems like a gatekeeper kina guy.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 58 points 4 weeks ago

But what if... I took Debian, and disguised it as my own distro? Ho ho ho! Delightfuly devilish, Seymore!

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago

I daily Debian because I realized all of the distros I tried and liked were Debian based. That was 20 years ago.

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 6 points 4 weeks ago

Daring today, aren't we

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[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 57 points 4 weeks ago

[-] LouSlash@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 weeks ago

I mean Linux wouldn't be as it is actually without Hannah Montana Linux and Justin Bieber Linux

[-] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 weeks ago

Don't forget UwUntu!

[-] LouSlash@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago

Exactly!

I also forgot about the (in)famous AmogOS

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

They can go ahead and create all they want. I just wont use any of them unless they give me a reason.

[-] TripDawkins@lemmy.studio 11 points 4 weeks ago

Exactly! Nobody has to listen to OP and change plans because OP doesn't approve! Like you, OP is free to NOT use the product!

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 31 points 4 weeks ago

Nah. Push them out like rabbits do with their babies. Let them fight and see which ones prevail!

[-] Peasley@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

New distros get a lot of crap, but often they are solving a need for someone.

Take Windowmaker Live: ostensibly it's just Debian + Windowmaker. I have seen comments saying why not just install WM on Debian? By asking that question, it's clear the asker hasnt tried recently. There is a lot to configure, and there are lots of usability papercuts.

A custom distro allows someone to fix those problems for themself, and share those fixes with others. It's not fragmentation, it's just FOSS.

[-] emergencycall@fedia.io 15 points 4 weeks ago

It would help more people to improve the installer for difficult-to-install software rather than creating an entire operating system around that software. Using the entire operating system as an installer is over the top

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago

You're both right

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[-] srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 weeks ago

We already have NixOS, why anything else?

(Guix is cool too).

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 weeks ago

Cat on a table.jpg says:

"I'm going to create a new distro by changing the name of Debian"

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[-] oshu@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Every project eventually makes their own package manager. Its pretty insane if you stop and think about how routinely the package manager is re-invented.

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[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

FU I won't do what you tell me!

[-] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Choose a distro by the default wallpaper.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly I'm kind of excited for the infrastructure as code tools. I think it is only going to get easier to customize a install quickly.

[-] frankenswine@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Do you have a minute to talk about GNU Guix?

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[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Lol no.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago

ALSO BRING BACK HANNAH MONTANA

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Ah good, so

NSFW distro open at your own riskYiffOS

is okay

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