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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 49 points 6 days ago

"civilization" vs "barbarians"

Typical speech for those trying to justify genocide.

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Where's Boudica when you need her.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago

Since when did war crimes count as just means?

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Israeli fascist, go fuck yourself."

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

He sounds like Hitler when he talked about the Soviets

[-] _core@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

What a weird way to refer to your country. "The one and only Jewish state" thats like saying "the one and only American state" or "the one and only French state"

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 152 points 1 week ago

Well, I was on the fence about Carney, now I see he won't be totally awful for the country.

[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

At least he answers questions comprehensively.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 122 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ha, "civilization". So that's what they're calling genocide today. Netanyahu needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago

Isn't that the standard line when it comes to people settling land with pre-existing tenants?

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[-] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

This is the same rhetoric that was used in Canada's genocide of indigenous peoples.

Part of reconciliation is denouncing what happened in Canada, which is still being felt today, and working towards reparations that are led by Indigenous peoples. We must learn from what happened and do better. But it is all in vain if we support the same atrocities being committed in other parts of the world.

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[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago

Stacks of dead innocent people and he thinks the other guys are the barbarians. Irresponsible statement?! HAHAHA. Get fucked you murderous piece of shit! There is no justification for what you are doing. And who cares about your one and only state. You don't deserve it.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 week ago

I hate Hamas but the way Israel is dealing with this is horrible.

It doesn’t have to black and white or antisemitic to say that.

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield, but that’s still not an excuse for leveling entire cities and indiscriminately killing civilians, or blocking aid that you could instead be supervising.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 5 days ago

The main thing is that Isreal intentionally blocked and prevented critical aid from reaching a starving population of civilians. Thats the core of the genocide case because it demonstrates motive and intentionality to hurt only the civilian population. The report that revealed this was what flipped my opinion from supporting isreals response and war objectives.

People call bombing buildings and killing civilians genocide but its an expected part of this type of war. If the enemy hides among the civilian population you can kill the civilian population. If the enemy hides in buildings and booby traps them, you can destroy the buildings.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago

Bibi is a fascist authoritarian, a war criminal, and is so corrupt he's facing jail when he leaves office. He is no better than Hamas.

Zionism is literally religious nationalism — which shouldn't be tolerated by ANY religion — therefore Israel IS a fascist state. Society needs to stop acting like it's okay for the abused to become the abuser because they were abused. It was never okay, and it still isn't.

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[-] plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

The only people using human shields are the IDF

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield

They're not, for the most part. This is Israeli propaganda that really took hold, but there was never any evidence for the human shields stuff.

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 week ago

Bibi, the Liberals are already going to win, you don't need to help them!

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[-] discomatic@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago

It boggles my mind every day that a fucking Jew would commit genocide. Goddamn.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Collective trauma is real. The Jewish people, and the world, should never forget the Holocaust. But when “never again” gets twisted into “never again, for us” it changes the attitude entirely:

I will tell you something about the Holocaust. It would be nice to believe that people who have undergone suffering have been purified by suffering.

But it’s the opposite, it makes them worse. It corrupts. There is something in suffering that creates a kind of egoism. And when such monstrous things have happened to your people, you feel nothing can be compared to it. You get a moral “power of attorney”, a permit to do anything you want – because nothing can compare to what has happened to us. This is a moral immunity which is very clearly felt in Israel.

Uri Avery, speaking after the IDF’s massacre at Sabra and Shatila

Uri was a Zionist poster child - his immediate family fled to (then mandatory Palestine) after the Nazis took power; every other relative who stayed in Germany was murdered in the Holocaust. His life story is incredible to read, and it’s a bitter truth to accept that he was marginalized and ignored by wider Israeli society because of his peace activism later in life.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

There's assholes everywhere. A religion, ethnicity, origin, gender, sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

An asshole is gonna be an asshole.

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

Imagine the lack of self-reflection to call someone a barbarian while committing genocide to steal more land from Palestine. I can't apprehend the confusion of thought necessary to think this way without starting with some blunt force trauma to the noggin.

[-] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

Didn't many leaders in Europe come out and say they're not going to arrest him when he visits?

Europe is just whispering to tell him they're fine with whatever he does. It's not just a single man's self-reflection anymore when he's been told there will not be any consequences of his actions.

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[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago

Not a Jewish state, a Zionist state. A Jewish state would follow the Mosaic Covenant. They wouldn't covet their neighbor's property (Palestinian's land) They wouldn't kill (genocide). They wouldn't take the name of God in vein by attributing their horrible actions to their god. They wouldn't steal the land and houses from people. They wouldn't bear false witness against their neighbor by calling Palestinians terrorists for simply not giving up when their land is being stolen. A Jewish state might not be that bad, a Zionist state, on the other hand, is a fascist state. #Gaza #Genocide #Fascism #Netanyahu #Zionism #FreePalestine

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[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Shit did Carney criticize Israel? He gonna get 90%in my riding anyway, but I might change from bloc to liberal if it's a proper critic.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago

Sort of, but he mostly walked it back. Hard to tell if he's doing it to get through the election. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-clarifies-genocide-remarks-1.7506027

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

What got me about it, having watched more of the clip now, is how after he 'misheard' and said "I'm aware", so much of the crowd started chanting his name. Like how are they not seeing this is what left-minded voters want.

I've always been an NDP voter and it sucks to feel like I have to vote liberal this time but it would feel so much better if they could just fucking come out and say it. Enough is enough.

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[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago

Canada has always sided with civilization

well that’s one way of saying it

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago
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