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[-] ninthant@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago

This feels like an overly simplistic analysis.

The conservatives successfully poisoned public perception of carbon pricing via willful lies, framing the (real) inflationary pressures felt around the world as being a locally Canadian issue and specially blamed on “the carbon tax”. This was aided by Trudeau’s lack of focus and his failing to ensure that the policy was a success, but PP and his legion of brain rotted influencers are the primary culprits.

Without ending the “carbon tax”, it was almost certainly inevitable that the CPC would win this election. It sucks, but it’s extremely difficult to paint a picture otherwise.

Carbon pricing is good policy. More than that, it’s the best “neoliberal” approach to controlling carbon emissions. Carney knows this as well as do, he argues for it quite persuasively in his book.

But it had to go, because letting PP win and sell the county to foreign oil extractors would be multiple orders of magnitude worse. And we will still get good carbon policy implemented by focusing on the industrial polluters with the stick and end consumers with the carrot. This doesn’t have the same market efficiency as carbon pricing, but it can be effective and will hopefully be more resilient against the attacks by the brain-rot peddlers.

I get it. May wants to pile on Carney because he’s winning and because there are scarce few voters who would be swayed from CPC to Green. But it sucks if these misleading messaging efforts take root — if they do, we all lose big.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 hours ago

What you're describing is winning elections by letting the public dictate your position. This is not the same thing as leadership. To be fair though, genuine leadership is in short supply all over the world right now, so it's easy to conflate cowardice with strategy.

Leadership is when someone steps away from the crowd, paints a picture of the world they want, and asks people to join them. Think: "I have a dream", or "we choose to go to the moon". Leaders are charismatic visionaries that take you with them rather than taking popular positions once the polling reports in.

Canada deserves the sort of leadership that understands the critical nature of the climate issue, and leaders who will convince us to come with them in building the world we want. May is criticising the other parties for their lack of conviction regarding the most important issue of our time, and she's right to do it.

[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago

It's just a matter of how bad it gets now at this point as I understand? Are we at the point where if we magically stop pollution today, the only habitable zones 300 years from now will be the north and south poles with 20'C weather year-round yet while the rest is Mad Max?

Idk actually, lemme know.

The gradient between no and yes determines how many billions die fighting for that limited space. We think political extremism is bad now...hoo boy.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 hours ago

Maybe if she spent more time defending it with the Liberals it wouldn't have been torched by the Conservatives and turned into Political kryptonite.

May can speak when she presents a reasonable and costed platform for once in her career.

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