Skyblivion >>> remake
We haven't even seen the remake yet.
It's Bethesda, there's not a lot of goodwill with them
I love when people are just totally confident and wrong on things that are well known and easy to find.
Gosh I hope but Bethesda's Radiant AI in Oblivion made for some real weird and unique NPC interactions. It gave that game its charm, IMO. Skyrims is different and just porting the game to Skyrim's Creation Engine might lose some of that weird charm.
Yeah, it's all cool until Bethesda or their owners issue a takedown.
If I recall correctly the team behind Skyblivion was (or still is) in contact with Bethesda throughout the development and had no problems with the latter in regards their work. Heck, Bethesda itself posted about the mod on their site in 2023.
They've been aware of Skyblivion for years and there's no indication they're interested in killing it.
That goodwill can change in an instant, especially if they are releasing a competing product, and especially if the legal team gets in the loop rather than the development staff.
Can it change? Sure. There's just no reason to expect that based on Bethesda's approach to modding until now. I'd rather base my expectations on their past actions rather than assume the worst just in case.
I see they're remaking the worst one first, good
Yeah, that's right, my hot take is that Oblivion fucking sucks ass and needs a remake, unlike TES 2, 3, and 5
I would certainly love to see Morrowind remake.
Oblivion is at least playable for newer gamers. It's not a good experience, but it is manageable.
Morrowind, for all its immense benefits, makes everyone who entered the game scene after 2010 scream in terror. I personally never left Balmora, because it's just a terrible experience by modern standards (graphics, character animation, controls, battle mechanics...), which is a great shame because the game seems to be great otherwise.
TES I and II, while deserving recognition, are very Doom-like in terms of gameplay, and I don't believe an adequate remake could be made, because they are so different they can't adequately be turned into a modern experience.
So, I guess for me all hopes are for Skywind, so I could finally walk the streets of Vivec without the need to fork my eyes.
Oblivion is far less playable for new players, y'all just have nostalgia blinders / mods in mind
The levelling system breaks Oblivion, violently. Nothing that awful is in Morrowind, even the "I can't hit anything with a dagger because I'm too stupid to read" doesn't come close
I can’t hit anything with a dagger because I’m too stupid to read” doesn’t come close
This happens 3 seconds into the game, and very few modern gamers will ever RTFM. It's far more likely to be a hard wall to a newcomer. I wouldn't blame them, either. Invisible stamina-based dice rolls was certainly a choice.
Oblivion's system took time to break down - long enough to actually get players invested, at least.
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