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I'm pretty sure, stuff like Graphene OS wouldn't work with whatever payment systems they set up. So you'd be forced to have a mainstream phone and OS to have the app to use money. They could have all sorts of tracking on it.

If they make IDs digital, and make carrying IDs mandatory, that'd basically seal out fate. Every movement will be tracked...

(Is this too "deep" to be on "casual" conversation?)

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[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 42 points 2 days ago

This conspiracy theory is missing the part that explains debit cards.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 days ago

I mean, that's already the case for the majority of peoples' transactions now. It's a bit late to worry about it.

That said, we have our transaction badges (debit cards) to do transactions, and so long as we continue to use those, there won't be a mandatory requirement to have your phone on you. At the same time, all those transactions are still stored and linked to you by your card provider, so you still lose privacy.

On top of that, everyone brings their phones pretty much wherever they go regardless of transactions, because they're deeply helpful devices. That already gives you telemetry at all times, which can be logged in various systems.

TLDR: The loss of privacy happened as early as 2 decades ago. It's just becoming worse as time goes on.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

The death of privacy started with purchases only electronically. Cash needs hoops

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Considering how many people are already walking around with smartphones, isn’t the hypothetical “no privacy” future you’re scared of already here?

[-] BoozeOrWater@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

(Is this too “deep” to be on “casual” conversation?)

Indeed. Locking now to keep the existing comments. Feel free to crosspost to a more generic Ask community.

[-] Libb@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago

What your thoughs on this?

My thoughts? I would change 'society', move to some other one.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Hello,

Is this too “deep” to be on “casual” conversation?

Probably, you might want to crosspost to a general ask community like !ask@lemm.ee or !asklemmy@lemmy.world

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