Even if what you said is true, which it is not (see Formerlyfarman's comment), whether or not Ukraine was trying to ethnically cleanse the Donbas prior to the SMO (which it was), and regardless of the virtues or crimes of the people's militias, none of that matters as far as what I was saying. None of that has any bearing on the asymmetry of war crimes perpetrated by Ukraine vs the lack of them committed by Russia.

There is no benefit for the Ukrainians to do this.

The benefit is to harm Russia at any and all cost and if they can achieve that, they see it as well worth it. Ukraine was never in a winning position yet they have been the ones committing war crime upon war crime upon war crime literally from the very start of this conflict (and depending on when you define it "beginning," they have been doing it from before the start and this is largely what necessitated Russia's intervention in the first place). Meanwhile, Russia has been highly, even shockingly restrained when it comes to taking actions with high potential to cause civilian harm. When you honestly compare how Russia has waged this war in terms of risk to civilian life to what the west (including Ukraine) has done in military operations and wars in the past handful of decades, Russia comes out as almost kind, looking like the benevolent "peacekeepers" that NATO always tried to paint themselves to their own respective domestic populaces. (This isn't to say warcrimes haven't been committed by Russian forces, particularly before Wagner was dismantled, but they are not systemic and are not at the scale of, for example, wiping out civilian infrastructure).

This isn't just a "Russia good and Ukraine bad" thing (though we shouldn't forget that current Ukraine is literally a Nazi-led project) but there are very obvious material reasons why this is the case. Like TreadOnMe pointed out, Russia came to the aid of what were essentially militias formed from Ukrainian civilians who were fighting in resistance of their own ethnic cleansing by the Ukrainian government. Russia knows that the territories it has been fighting over will be its responsibility to maintain and rebuild so destroying the infrastructure there and making enemies of the people who live there are not at all in Russia's best interests. This is a major stumbling block for the libs who constantly want to believe Russia is just a bunch of orcs hellbent on domination and conquest: material reality does not fit the idealist narrative they need to believe in.

Just because Ukraine commits war crimes repeatedly (as they have) and even as a normal order of operation, that does not mean that Russia will then be compelled to do the same as a tit-for-tat. There are certain lines that when crossed, Russia does have to respond to, but that doesn't mean they have to respond with commensurate cruelty to civilians. And they haven't.

That's right! We have to make sure the very last Ukrainian dies in a meat grinder before we even think about agreeing to these completely reasonable, even generous peace terms. Wait, what's that? Russia will have even better leverage and grounds to demand even more concessions the longer this conflict goes on and the further Ukraine gets beaten back? Damn, oh well who cares? As long as western arms manufacturers can keep their grift going a little longer and a few more Eastern Asiastics get taken out, it will be well worth it, right guys?

I'm kind of pissed that thread got locked. I get that sometimes "struggle session" threads need to get shut down because they just devolve into drama. But sometimes these things really need to be hashed out. Especially when there are so many upvotes for the liberals who think supporting Hamas is bad because bad optics. I honestly would not have guessed so many on this website would agree with the OP who was openly fed-jacketing the protest organizers for daring to say something that is true and correct, and that those organizers "ambushed" OP and their friends.

Buying drugs in person puts someone at risk of violence and death. Buying drugs on a DNM (assuming you use a very basic amount of opsec) the biggest risk is losing a little bit of crypto.

Don't be a fucking sucker Any questions?

Such an ignorant and privileged thing to say.

Unfortunately, this is all about drugs and won't effect the pedos. CSAM is as available on the DN as regular porn is on the regular net and doesn't require the apparatus that DNMs need in order to trade a physical product through the physical mail.

Umm.. This is a war that could be the beginning of the next world war. There's escalating violence without an offramp where tens of thousands have already been killed or are currently being killed in an an asymmetric conflict between countries/political entities whose next actions have massive and immediate consequences for Iran as well as for the US. It's a little beyond a general getting killed. While there may not end up being a war between Iran and the US, the circumstances aren't comparable.

(or maybe Israel is just hurling bombs at them without care, idk)

I don't know either, but from everything we've seen, it's definitely that. It's collective punishment. The goal is to flatten whatever they can, whatever is there, kill any and as many civilians that happen to be below the falling bombs and white phosphorus. If they hit Hamas, that's no doubt a huge bonus, sure, but they're mostly just lashing out, punishing anyone within reach for the utter humiliation they just endured. The bullies were just bloodied in a way they thought they never could be, and now they're flailing through their bloody, snotty tears because that's all a bully can do when they're finally put in their place.

I didn't but your report doesn't exactly make me want to try to, lol. What did they say?

You don't need 72T's permission to do that, right? You (or anyone) can just make the thread by creating a post, then post the link here, and people will be able to contribute by posting comments. Yes?

Edit: to be clear I think this is a good idea and agree it's important to keep track and make a record as it's happening.

No, we want Ukraine to stop trying to ethnically cleanse the Donbas and give the people there self determination. And we want the Ukrainian government to stop forcibly conscripting people to go die needlessly on the front in a clearly losing war. We want NATO to stop enabling all of that (it literally wouldn't be happening if they weren't demanding that it continue). That's what it is to be a peace activist. And I'm fairly sure I can speak for all of us, we are not pacifists, lol. But we are advocates for peace and the end to the horrible and needless loss of life.

Nice try to completely twist reality, and completely misrepresent us, as you war mongering dronies always do.

Edit: We actually give a shit about all the Ukrainian people being thrown into a fucking meat grinder. We care about their lives. The people who just say "more weapons to Ukraine!" do not give a shit about the lives of the people there. They're happy to just let the war keep dragging on until the last capable Ukrainian is dead. An example of how WE feel about the tragedy of the situation: https://hexbear.net/post/503747 (hexbear link to a lemmygrad news post)

Socialism is when the government does stuff.

Uh, yeah?

You are literally saying something that is so thoroughly absurd it is a well known meme used to make fun of people who don't know what they're talking about.

Clip of the most famous example of the meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgiC8YfytDw

Lecture the clip is from (that you could learn a lot from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysZC0JOYYWw

Look, ignorance is not a crime. But you really are painfully ignorant about the topic you are claiming to explain and you would do well to learn more before presuming to educate "extremists on both sides." Your comments are so lacking in self awareness and so cringe that I'm half convinced this is a bit.

Edit: So after a refresh of the thread I read more of your comments and I'm glad to see you're willing to learn and discuss. Here is another good introduction point that's been well received by a lot of people beginning to look beyond the buzzwords and genuinely learn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpKsygbNLT4 Actually, the same could be said for about every video on that channel (Second Thought).