[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

It is very secure

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

It is not. I am not saying people should not eat healthy or should not try to lose weight. I am just saying that pushing the oversimplification that for everyone it is just calories in vs calories out and that it is only about willpower is not correct. People should get the right help with losing weight and the factors that cause the weight gain or makes people not losing the weight should be addressed.

There is lots of scientific work on this. I copied some links from another comment I made.

For example, this is an article in Journal of Obesity. It discusses the role of willpower and provides an overview of some of the research on other factors that affect whether people lose weight, such as metabolic compensation.

This is another interesting paper in the Irish Journal of Medical Science on patient's view on obesity as a disease. I think the conclusion of this study aligns well with some of my claims:

The presence of beliefs and perceptions to support the narrative that obesity is a choice, that choosing to eat less and move more effectively treats the disease and willpower is a principle determinant of weight loss maintenance may negatively impact long-term treatment. A belief that obesity is a choice will see prevention and treatment strategies continually focus on education regarding eating less and moving more, which may be suboptimal. Therefore, the narrative must change and align with the science regarding the biology of obesity as a disease.

[This] (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0953620521000029) paper on weight regain also claims that it is not just about compliance with a diet, but that, amongst others, metabolic adaptation and changed appetite play an important role as well.

If you disagree, please provide some substantiation. I would be interested in reading it.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

My experience is that if you spend time on providing sources, people usually are not interested in them and will not change their mind anyway. So I do not feel like it is worth the effort in every discussion. However, if you are interested in the work on this topic that substantiate my claims, then I am very glad to provide some links to some interesting articles.

This is an article in Journal of Obesity. It discusses the role of willpower and provides an overview of some of the research on other factors that affect whether people lose weight, such as metabolic compensation.

This is another interesting paper in the Irish Journal of Medical Science on patient's view on obesity as a disease. I think the conclusion of this study aligns well with some of my claims:

In conclusion many people with obesity who agree obesity is a disease appear to have an imperfect understanding of the causes and treatment options. The presence of beliefs and perceptions that support the narrative that obesity is a choice, that choosing to eat less and move more effectively treats the disease and willpower is a principle determinant of weight loss maintenance may negatively impact long-term treatment. A belief that obesity is a choice will see prevention and treatment strategies continually focus on education regarding eating less and moving more, which may be suboptimal. Therefore, the narrative must change and align with the science regarding the biology of obesity as a disease.

[This] (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0953620521000029) paper on weight regain also claims that it is not just about compliance with a diet, but that, amongst others, metabolic adaptation and changed appetite play an important role as well.

I am personally quite interested in work on obesity due to eating disorders. The reason for this is that I suffered from an eating disorder causing obesity for most of my life (fortunately, I do not have the disorder anymore). The constant pressure to just eat less and getting blamed if you fail, severely increased my eating disorder and I saw the same thing happen to others with similar issues. I know that this is anecdotal and not everyone that is obese has an eating disorder and not everyone with an eating disorder is the same. However, there is some limited evidence that weight neutral treatment of binge eating disorder has better outcomes. This and treatment for my CPTSD is exactly what worked for me.

I hope that this provides you with enough evidence to at least take the things I was saying into consideration. Please let me know if you find this useful. I have a lot more to share if you are interested.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

That definitely plays a role. I think the independent doctor also should not have any relationship to the person who has requested assisted death at all. If I am correct, one reason for that is that they can then truly come to a fresh, objective conclusion based on facts. I think another reason is that some people might become quite close with their own doctor over the years and therefore it might be difficult for this doctor to tell them no, or yes. They might be too involved.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

You can try. At least with ADHD you have creativity and hyperfocus. That might help. :-)

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

Thank you! That is very kind.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

Exercising just does not work for everyone. If your stress levels are extreme, it might not benefit you. You might need to find another way to reduce stress first.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Well, then at least we can get to view the different viewpoints clearly side by side and with their arguments.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

There are many ways to make changes. Most of them are small, but they add up. You can do a lot in your daily life and by picking jobs that contribute (if you have the opportunity). For example, I try to buy stuff second-hand as much as possible. I do not use the big commercial social media, unless it is for work. I have a background in IT and I am focusing on designing systems to support a circular economy, amongst others. I try to be open to discussion with others about this stuff to better understand their issues.

I know there is a lot of power on the other side. But we are not powerless. If people are forcing things k go to hell, do not let them. If people are oblivious, try to inform them. If people are discouraged, be kind and try to provide a more hopeful perspective.

And this is not going to work all the time and you are going to fail a lot of the time. But you might sometimes succeed as well. And, it makes me much happier if I can say that I tried and did not just sit and watch everything going to shit. And I genuinely believe that there are chances to make things better. We just have to try and figure out how until it works.

[-] Shelena@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

True. I mean these issues are all related. But for that it is the same, I think. There is a chance to make it better, unless you give up. I rather try and fail than never try. Of course succeeding is even better.

I think one of the main issues is that people believe that we need to live like this. That there is no other option than this capatalistic nightmare. And that these businesses and money is so powerful that we can do nothing about it. People believing that makes them not act. It keeps the status quo. I think if we can change this, we have already won half the battle.

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