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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Except there's no evidence of that.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

There's no evidence that China can control what's shown on a China-owned app?

In case you're still unaware, the China govt is the ultimate authority within China, even in private companies. More so after recent crackdowns on their oligarchs and billionaires. The idea that they have no control over tiktok is plain laughable.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

TikTok has gone out of their way to show they've siloed American operations. There has been no evidence that the Chinese government could or would breach that.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

So you're arguing that TikTok US, despite being fully owned and controlled by China, has full independence and decision making capability? Even regular western companies don't have that. What the home office says, goes. At most, their American operations are making sure they're abiding by US law with regards to data and such (and even then I'd highly doubt that, given all the forensic breakdowns about TikTok sending encrypted data to China).

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

If it sends encrypted data to China it would be the first I've heard of it. The worst the news could come up with last time is headcount data. And yes they went on an entire project to silo it. At the end of the day they want the money, and TikTok shop provides it. Other than that they sell the same info Meta does on the open market.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I really don't think China is nearly as interested in siphoning data as controlling the algorithm. Getting people to see more pro-Chinese videos, more anti-US videos, and some bias toward candidates they want to see win is completely doable without exfiltrating any data.

Basically, all the stuff people are pissed about Musk doing to Twitter (changing algo to push right wing content) are just as feasible for TikTok to do, with the main difference being China is a state actor, whereas Musk is a private billionaire.

We should be very worried about any social media app that's very popular and controlled by an org with political motivations.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

If it sends encrypted data to China it would be the first I’ve heard of it.

No shit. Do you think they would tell everyone? Do you think it would be easy to prove?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Easier than you think with the NSAs reported reach into back end Internet systems.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Do you think the NSA would tell everyone either?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I think they should be required to present their evidence if they want to 86 a company.

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