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1: This girl seems cool.
2: BATTERIES ARE $220 NOW?!?!
Just paid 350 canuck bucks for an AGM battery for a regular old RAV4.
This world is cruel
I replaced my car battery a few years ago thinking it was just going to be $50. $175 later...
Can confirm, am also RAV4 owner who had to pay $350 for an AGM battery.
A new rav4? Crazy there are enough electronics running that a lead acid battery wouldn't be up to the task!
Mine is a 2017 model. It is a hybrid so there are more electronics. The battery is stored in the trunk and that may be why it’s AGM, if I remember correctly the lead acid batteries can let out some pretty toxic fumes while charging!
AGM is often specced for cars with start-stop, where there are periods of consumption without any generation happening, I believe. Most modern cars have that, though I don't know if all ask for AGM. Most of my experience has been with German cars where it's often suggested you use AGM even if it wasn't specced with AGM new.
Agm batteries are fuckin annoyingly expensive
To be fair, they seem to be better than they used to. My car hit 200k not too long ago and still has its original battery. I have no problems with it but I remember having much newer batteries where it was a gamble on cold mornings if it would start. Purely anecdotal though.
My car has 130k and I keep wondering when the battery is going to die, because when I was younger they didn't last this long and I just kinda forgot about it until it occurred to me recently.
270k checking in, factory battery
My car hit 25k and needed a new battery
Yeah someone told me the other day they had to get 2 batteries in the last year because one of those breathilizers in the car eats at them. I told him to make sure he used the manufacturers warranty. But I figured I'd tell you just so you know you arent the only one getting short lasting batteries
I just paid ~650usd for a new battery for my Toyota. Though I bought an extra expensive one to have good enough amps for starting in -40c and colder.
It's a couple of hunks of lead, copper, and sulfuric acid. You got robbed.
You can get AGM or even lion batteries which cost a little more and are a bit more involved but 600 still sounds high.
No? Proper high CCA batteries are expensive, go find me something with 1000+ CCA from a trusted brand for under 600 bucks (including all taxes, etc) I'm also not in the US
Oh my bad, I should have researched the Russian battery market before commenting about my personal experiences on the other end of the world
wait, what?
*looked at the username you're responding to* ah, nevermind
Fun fact: -40c = -40f
Stop buying stuff from the dealership!
*stealership
I did not, and that's a very American thing that dealerships massively rip you off. (though yes OEM parts are always more expensive)
I bought a high CCA battery because I need it where I live, they are expensive. The one I got is an Odyssey PC1750T which I have no clue what the price of is in America, but 600+ usd with taxes isn't uncommon in Europe.
That's crazy. I have a high CCA battery that I got at Costco tire center for $220.
Went to check if they were cheaper at Walmart, found they were 70-140 for a normal lead acid battery.
It popped up with an ad asking me to do a free month trial of Walmart+ or what not. I was like why would I want this. And the FIRST line wasn't about free delivery, cheaper gas prices or some shit, it was 25% percent off Burger King daily. (Guessing they say daily so you don't stand outside and give everyone 25% off on the drive thru.). But still... Why the fuck is fast food charging so much that they can afford to throw another 25% to Walmart.
Another reason to love Costco.
Don't ever buy batteries from an auto parts store. Find a hole in the wall hardware store or a rural king or something like that and you'll get them way cheaper
Just go to Walmart lol there's always like 100 free ones in the parking lot
Just need a crowbar and you're golden
They were never cheap...
Newer cars call for more expensive types of battery.
They're still lead acid batteries. That hasn't changed.
I don’t know about that, it kinda paints a picture that the general public is being priced out of cars and their maintenance….
Wait…
Just got (today!) a brand new battery for $85 (from the factory store, so not a purchasing option available for most people)
My work truck has 2 batteries, it was a bit over $450 total 2 months ago
Im building a race car, for an extra $350 I can get a battery that weighs 2kg instead of 14kg.
Like... It does nothing else special other than weigh a shitload less.
That is a shitload , though hopefully not literally.
Seems worthwhile in this context, though.
Yeah, Im building a barely street legal "smiles per gallon" toy... in a 1025kg car I can save around 12kg each on the battery, spare wheel, aircond, back seat and wheels, few more on the carpet and sound deadening... few more on the flywheel. doesnt sound like much but the car will be about 6% lighter overall. Thats the low hanging fruit and the expense of losing more will be where it costs big cash or the car becomes illegal.
Same capacity and CCA or do you have to make sacrifices?
Less AH but thats a minimal concern.
Well for a race car yeah, I was just wondering if the technology existed to make regular car batteries lighter without any sacrifices besides cost. I guess Lifepo4 is an option, but not in the cold.
Honestly I'm not really sure about the long term drawbacks of running one in a street car.
Ah I run aged luxury cars in a cold climate so personally I'm not a fan of "less Ah" but for most people it should be fine.
When you really get into the nitty gritty with weight savings, 350 bucks for 12 kg of weight reduction seems like a total bargain.
You should post your project on !cars@lemmy.world :D
Yeah its pretty much a bargain in terms of weight reduction, but I'm also not tearing out a perfectly good $200 lead acid and then spending $550 just to save some weight while I still have repairs to do just to make the car "good" and "safe" LOL.
We are early in the project but I will take the time to post it up on here too.
Yeah they're all 200+ now, I was told it's because only a few companies make batteries and with the rise in popularity of electric vehicles now they are in shorter supply.
I don't know if that's true, but that's what some mechanic told me when I went to get a new one recently
This doesn't make much sense at first glance, because the battery in an electric vehicle uses completely different technology and chemistry compared to a classic car battery (lithium-ion Vs lead-acid).
Every EV I've seen has separate 12V battery, same as fuel cars do.
Sure but that wouldn’t increase demand for those separate batteries regardless of the technology.
Unless there are a lot more cars on the road or EVs consume them faster for some reason.
Red Top in my Tundra was $350