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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

Here's how Ukraine was being reported by the West before the war.

Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.

These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity.

Five years after Maidan, the beacon of democracy is looking more like a torchlight march. A neo-Nazi battalion in the heart of Europe

If you whitewash NAZI POGROMS just because you want to beat Russia, fuck you. Siding with far-right fascists to defeat far-right fascists doesn't make you the good guy. There is no lesser of two evils here.

If you dismiss any criticism of Ukraine as Russian propaganda, you might want to ask why the rest of the world, including the West, was concerned about Nazism in the area and then suddenly changed their tune only after the war started.

We should be getting both sides into peace negotiations, not prolonging the bloodshed and providing Nazis with illegal cluster bombs

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[-] Redcat@hexbear.net 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly. And why would Putin talk about denazification? We read the same articles from CNN and MSNBC about Ukraine's nazi training camps, about Zelensky's inability to get the far right militias to stop killing eastern ukrainians, or the constant and widespread worship of nazi iconography combined with a redemption of banderism. None of this add up to a need for denazification.

One would have to be a cynic to exploit words like those of the security council of Ukraine, when they claimed that asians are subhuman and that russians are are asians.

The Russian government is truly mad if it believes it must do something just because tens of thousands of russians were killed by genocidal militias. Why, in international community tems those don't even add up to a single american life.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm concerned you're doing a satire, and I'm concerned that it means you're being a tankie. Fuck Russia. You don't get to whitewash the murder and torture and deportation of civilians as a justified war on Nazi's in the region.

[-] Redcat@hexbear.net 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

satire

What are you a Trump bot? There's nothing satirical about Reuter's reporting. These are extremely serious journalistic outfits.

This is so disappointing. That people like you would deny ethnic cleansing of eastern ukrainians. You are definitely a Trump voter.

[-] sammer510@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago

What does being a "tankie" (lol) have to do with supporting Russia as it exists today? It is no longer a communist country. Did you fall asleep in 1990 and just now wake up? That would explain a lot

[-] tuga@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

You're a child

[-] yuritopia@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

doing a satire

Why do libs talk like this?

[-] blight@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

to understand that you must do a growth

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

You're rooting for people who made the person who committed the holocaust in that region their hero.

You want to stand shoulder to shoulder with literal fucking nazis and call anyone who has a problem with you a 'tankie'

Well you dumb motherfucker, the tankies were the ones who defeated the nazis in the first place.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 2 years ago

Hexbear and Lemmygrad are tankie instances and the maintainers of the Lemmy software are tankies.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Please don't engage in anarchist erasure, we're not just a tankie instance we're an anartankie instance left-unity-4

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

I love getting called a tankie because that's what libs call everyone to their left now

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

stalin-cig stalin-pipe stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2 3, 2, 1, Let's go...

TANKIE!

(I really want a version of the Cowboy Bebop opening but all the silhouettes are great tankies from history now.)

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago
[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

The anarchists are the biggest tankies of all

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Please don't engage in understatements we're not just an anartankie instance we're the anartankie instance

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I wonder wot Stalin wud have thought of the term 'anartankie'

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Never forget that the tankies liberated Auschwitz stalin-approval

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

I'm something of a moron myself.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"I'm concerned you're doing a satire, and I'm concerned that it means you're being a tankie"

Who do I talk to about new site taglines?

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fuck America. You don't get to whitewash the murder and torture and deportation of civilians as a justified war on crime/terrorism in the region.

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