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Warning, this story is really horrific and will be heartbreaking for any fans of his, but Neil Gaiman is a sadistic [not in the BDSM sense] sexual predator with a predilection for very young women.

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[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

Jesus fucking Christ.

I have not read anything from Gaiman, but I can see that lots of People really liked his books and the Person he showed the world.

So I just want to say, I'm really sorry for all of you. Even though Gaiman can rot in Hell, I feel sad for people who just got their favorite Books and stories poisoned.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is way worse than the J.K. Rowling turned TERF bit. These are actual crimes committed against women.

I legit really enjoyed many of his works, Good Omens, written with Terry Pratchett, is an all time classic, and I used to be proud of the fact that I actually met the man, as did one of my oldest friends as well as my brother in law.

Now it's all like "What the fuck?"

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That must be creepy³ :0

[-] Reyali@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Is it awful that a part of me is glad Terry Pratchett is gone and doesn’t have to face this about someone who was a friend and co-writer?

Given how progressive Pratchett’s stories were I would have a hard time believing he was a bad person or could support bad people, and I imagine this would be hard on him. Then again perhaps I’m just selfishly glad that I don’t have to know if he didn’t respond appropriately by distancing himself.

Don’t know if I’m even making sense. This is just so disheartening given how many people I know absolutely loved Gaiman.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Why though? He is a sack of shit and can rot in hell for all I care.. his art can still be enjoyed. Having him take that way means he has even more power.

I would suggest obtaining it in ways that do not give him new money... Like buying books second hand.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

If you can do that more Power to you!

But I can understand that some People now look with diffrent eyes on his work or simply can't make that cut between Author and his work.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah I can imagine for some people his work is tainted...

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

That's the case for me. Same as watching anything with Kevin Spacey in it now. I just can't separate the man from from his reported actions.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

In this specific case, it's really difficult because, as the article talks about in the beginning, his stories were often viewed as being feminist (and progressive in other ways), but when you re-read them, you can start getting a sense of the monster that was hiding.

[-] bawdy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

I've been a fan of his for a very long time - decades. I enjoyed the dark part of the dark humour and the commentaey on humanity.

He has an excellent book called the sleeper and the spindle. It is a beautifully crafted and illustrated book clearly targeted at young women. It feels like art, and I genuinely celebrate it for what it is, a feminist retelling of Cinderella, where the celebrated main character is....how do I put it - both good, and effective. Not empowered, or brave, or glossy, but competent and certain. It is a version of feminism I see in those pragmatic, excellent women who do valuable, notable and productive things.

I don't see any echoes of a monster any moreso than any fantasy writer who holds up a chipped and scratched mirror to the human condition. And that is the profoundly sad thing here. I believe you can be two things at once and that as a story, without his name attached to it, sleeper and the spindle should be something young people can read and enjoy and make them think a bit differently.

This isn't a shoulder shrug and wave off of his actions. I can't forgive him his cruel treatment of vulnerable people who cared for him, trusted him and wanted to please him. It is abhorrent.

What I'm trying to say is mud and gold come from the same hole.

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I don’t see any echoes of a monster

I think it's not possible to see that far. Ability to write good stories and ability to maintain ethical behaviour, they're probably unrelated abilities.

For example, Yevgeni Prigozhin actually wrote decent children's stories, but alas, his personal ethics didn't prevent becoming Putin's accomplice with a private military company.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well for example, all of the sexual (and other) violence in the 24-Hour Diner part of The Sandman takes on a very different connotation now. Because now I know he's responsible for such things. He was writing from experience.

[-] mPony@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

if you want to spend time re-reading those books, might I suggest spending that time finding new authors that are more deserving of your time and attention? Yes the books were pretty great; yes this situation is awful.

Just, find new good books.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

You really should. Sandman and American Gods are incredible, and he also occasionally dipped into trashy comic fare, also enjoyable. He's one trait I guess comes from the comics he used to do, his best stories are all with other people's characters. I don't think he's ever used a original character, they're all like mythological tropes. Even supposedly original protagonists turn out to be Balder or some shit.

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