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~~Signal no longer requires a phone number to sign up for.~~ Also telegram really should not be recommended at all if the focus is on privacy.
Update: I am wrong, signal does require a phone number.
Maybe try simplex as that doesn't require a phone number.
It does require a phone number. The option to generate a username is there if you want to chat with people on signal but don’t want to give out your phone number.
You still need a phone number to sign up.
I just tried installing Signal now and it's asking for a phone number with no way to skip
Yeah, it does actually require a phone number, though you can use a landline and you can also hide that number for people you chat with.
How does the landline option work? Do they call you to verify?
Yeah, I believe you'll receive an automated verification call.
Good on Signal, but what's the problem with Telegram?
Telegram isn't encrypted end-to-end by default; apparently if you do encrypt e2e you can't access chats from multiple devices.
Signal's protocol is widely understood to be the gold standard for security, which is one reason it's been adopted for multiple messengers. Telegram has a bespoke protocol which is not as well regarded.
What else uses signal's protocol out of curiosity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol#Usage
Wow I had no idea it's what WhatsApp, Messenger, and RCS all use.
Encryption sucks and used to be a complete joke when it started
Not end-to-end encrypted by default, ad-financed, stores data and ecryption keys centrally, analyzes messages while they're being typed etc. It isn't really any more secure than even something like Whatsapp.