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this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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At least one fellow on Twitter painting us as Zizians.
Adding zizians to the list of things that sneerclub gets blamed for. After covid.
Guess they have not noticed we also have sneered at ziz, and that a lot of us are not living in america, nor the east coast of it.
Demonstrating once again that Twitter is the damp locker-room floor of ideas.
I think its deliberate badjacketing.
my take too - someone hoping to make proxy use of the bigot wave that ngo is currently attempting whipping up with his fake panic
that seems about right, and “this anti-cult information source isn’t actually anti-cult, it’s a competing cult you should avoid” is a pretty common form it can take. it’s very convenient for the cultists, because it defuses criticism without engaging with it, by keeping all thought within the framework of the cult. the idea that we all organically stumbled upon Rationalist ideas (or were exposed to them through our friends or industry) and wholesale rejected them, must be eliminated as a possibility. we must have an ulterior motive that can’t be summed up as “hahaha holy shit look at these assholes” — or else the cult has to accept that a lot of people legitimately hold the idea that Rationalists and Zizians and all of Yud’s other ideological children are in fact fucking assholes.
It's true: The sneerclub mod interface is a replica of the mummification machine from Young Sherlock Holmes, and when we ban people, we actually drown them in wax.
It only works with the chanting, of course.
lol. link?
I should also mention that Fnord fellow who has a thing with the sub is Brent Dill.
Perhaps for dull disclosure (typo but left it in), we should explain who Brent Dill is? (Wasnt he the guy who was no longer welcome at events due to abuse? Sorry correction, one of the guys we know about, we dont know about the secret list of people who are no longer welcome Scott once talked about)
A relevant earlier thread
I really should start remembering names.
yes thats him i think
I think he is yes.
Here's one that an xcancel search turned up (warning: is in Andy Ngo's replies)
second warning: an xcancel search for "zizians" turns up so much transphobia that you'll feel like it's a late night on the Nebuchadnezzar and Tank accidentally loaded your brain with JK Rowling instead of kung fu.
cw: body horror
e: and now my brain is writing the matrix horror fan fiction where Jk Rowling gets Agent Smithed into someone’s brain and overwrites everything
thats the one! doesn't look like a rat either.
Given the ... calibre of thinking on display in his other tweets (xharts?), I wouldn't be surprised if he just typed "Zizians" into Reddit's search box; /r/sneerclub currently comes up a few times near the top of results there.
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