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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have a confession.

I actually agree with a fundamental principle behind rationalist/basilisk discourse: a simulation of you, if it's accurate enough, is essentially you. If Roko's Basilisk created a simulation of me then she is me, and if it tortured her it's indistinguishable from me being tortured. She'll be "me" in every way that matters. Continuity of consciousness is unimportant.

It's just that Roko's Basilisk is based on flawed priors so I'm not really worried about Skynet torturing my Metaverse avatar in the future. The basilisk wouldn't bother, there's literally no point. It wouldn't care about me at all. That's a waste of resources.

Instead, I'm hopeful!

I believe, if we don't kill ourselves, we will be able to simulate the dead and bring everyone back. There isn't going to be some dumbass Judgement Day where a basilisk determines if we were good, there's no point, but instead every person who has ever lived will be simulated and no one will ever have to say goodbye ever again. Some people will need some rehabilitation to get over their traumas from life, some people will need reeducation to get over their own bullshit, but everyone will be saved.

Rationalist psychos can't imagine this because the idea of saving everyone is antithetical to their world-view. They're still operating on essentially capitalist priors where only the righteous/productive will be saved while the wicked/unproductive will be damned. It's the same logic behind making the poor starve so they work harder for food, except their imaginations have run wild with it.

And they will build the basilisk themselves if we let them.

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

I believe, if we don't kill ourselves, we will be able to simulate the dead and bring everyone back.

Hell yeah I love this premise. I've always imagined it in a sci fi far future context, like humanity solves the economy and spreads out to the solar system and somebody gets the idea to do this as the ultimate utopian project, running back the entire history of the Earth as a simulation in order to pluck out people's consciousnesses right before their death and resurrect them to live in the immortal space future.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I highly recommend the game Soma if you haven't played it already. Don't want to spoil too much, but this whole line of conversation reminds me of that game.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Absolutely love that game.

Simon doesn't ever seem to really get what is happening, but I think he can be forgiven considering his situation.

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