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Quotes from the voice mail she left. (what a fucking idiot to give a voice recording of this)
"You are in our sights, we want to kill you,"
"If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you, so tread lightly, b---h. ... You will be targeted personally, publicly, your family, all of it."
Sounds serious to me.
Serious or not, the target won't know and the harm done by them is real either way. The criminal needs to be locked up and hopefully rehabilitated. If the latter isn't possible, at least she won't be able to follow through on the threats from a jail cell.
She's also been charged with the same time three other times just this year; and there's no mention of the number of times she just got a warning for pulling this stuff. In fact, she was out on bail for similar messages when she did this. This is not a person who is able to handle her emotions who is slowly getting driven over the edge by reich-wing media. She may not head to New York or DC to kill a judge as but she is absolutely capable of shooting a bunch of black people at Walmart or driving through a group of Hispanic workers.
She also said she was going to kill every LGBT+ person and every Democrat. I really don't think she was serious. Crazy, but not serious.
Honestly, I don't care. I'm sick of death threats for a giggle. Take it as seriously as a hilarious bomb threat at an airport.
I don't disagree there.
I'm sick of slightly-not-threats in general. I'm always amazed at people for listening to a few interactions between police and crooks and figuring out exactly what they can say and get away with while leaving the victim with no uncertainty that they'll be targeted. It seems like a majority of the population will happily scream at someone over something small. It's no surprise that we are seeing escalations into real death threats, regardless of intent or seriousness.
This whole fucking handbasket seems to be in flames already.
These yahoos literally threaten our lives and then act like we are trying to feed them to lions when we say happy holidays.
Fuck them, like literally. I wish they were half as put upon and persecuted as they think they are.
Literally? Are you sure you've seen their pictures?
So, mixed signal time, while not actually advocating for rape, it is usually not about sexual attraction, but more about assertion of power and intimidation.
So, in the hyperbolically sarcastic “literal” sense of fuck them, their looks are irrelevant.
I know. I wasn't trying to be pedantic or even serious, but I couldn't pass up calling out the use of "literal" on that occasion
Is all good, mate
I honestly can't see why you think this.
Someone who is willing to make a recording of threats has to be taken seriously.
Would you feel the same and let it slide if this was directed at you and your family?
I didn't say it shouldn't be taken seriously. There's a difference between saying someone is not being serious and saying they shouldn't be taken seriously.
What does "not being serious" mean in this context, according to you?
That she wasn't actually going to do it. I think they were empty threats. But it still needs to be treated as if she was a real threat.
Thinking this shit isn't serious is why the US has multiple mass shootings per day
But how do you know she wasn't serious?
And no, "because she threatened to kill all the gays" ain't good enough.
I don't know. I never said I knew. Hence my saying it should be treated as serious.
Also worth noting... even if we knew for a fact she had no serious intend to carry out her threat - like if there was a recording before and after she hung up the phone laughing about this "prank" - threats on the lives of government officials are crimes. It can influence their behavior. There is no situation where it's not serious, just like standing up on a plane and yelling "I have a bomb!" is a crime and serious whether a joke or not.
Thanks for the clarification.
Man, the downvotes are ridiculous. Conversation is more difficult here than reddit. Nobody here is willing to simply talk, they just want to be right.
For the record, I get what your saying, not sure why everyone feels the need to jump down your throat.
For a person being shot dead it makes no difference if the killer was sane or mad, sober or drunken.
Which, for the god knows how many times I've said it, is why it should still be taken seriously.
How many more times do I have to say it?
Crazy like the nazis who wanted to kill all the Jews, right?
If the Nazis were incapable of doing so on their own, yes. But they weren't.
So setting an unrealistic goal means no progress will be made, and she wouldn't kill a single person.
Which, yet again, is why I said it should still be taken seriously.
Seriously crazy
Oh well in that case, just a prank bro!
/s just in case
Not even trying to imply that.
Yeah I know, I don't disagree with what you said, just sick of some of the things people seem to get away with sometimes.
she, herself, might not be a serious threat. but one must assume that the "we" includes other people who have proven in the past to be serious.