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[-] wizzim@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

I have a mixed feeling about Gabe and Valve.

While I am insanely grateful for proton (even if it was strategically important for them, they didn't do it out of kindness of heart), some other stuff disturb me:

  • Valve being so lenient on CS2 skin gambling, hurting the young people
  • A steam account being un-inheritable, making you defacto a tenant of your games
  • The 30% percent cut, stealing money from devs
  • Gabe spending his money on multiple mega yachts, like every asshole billionaire, instead of making the world a better place
  • Gabe claiming to be a libertarian, like Elon and other pieces of shit
[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
  • The 30% percent cut, stealing money from devs

Sigh. Here we go again. I'll just copy one of my older comments about that attitude.


Steam is not a parasitic middle man, it is a collection of services that would have to be provisioned and operated by the developer otherwise. The 30% cut pays for:

  • A massive infrastructure to store and deliver the game and its updates, worldwide, and at an acceptable bandwidth that Valve operates
  • A storefront that enables monetizing the game
  • The audience and discoverability that would not exist otherwise
  • The Steam API, achievements, cloud saves
  • The client itself, content management, validation, and Linux compatibility tools
  • Network and operational security
  • Also keep in mind that Steam and its services are operated by experts. A game developer would have to hire the experts or get training.

If the revenue from the cut exceeds the operational costs: it's called profitability, not theft. The world doesn't run on good vibes.

[-] im_a_GDeveloper@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

I didn’t knew about he claiming to be a libertarian. Rothbard must be turning over in his grave.

Here's the thing - Theoretically we shouldn't give a shit about his political leanings and we don't have to, because he and his company deliver a good service. I can privately think he's another asshole libertarian tech bro whose only guiding principle is "everyone should be able to do what I want, but only some people should have the money to do those things", but it doesn't change anything about Steam or Half-Life 3.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

The 30% percent cut, stealing money from devs

This is a pretty spicy take. Let's consider two possibilities:

  1. Game devs choose to distribute independently, and sell their game for $20. They sell 100,000 copies and make $2 million in revenue, and keep the entire $2 million.

  2. Game devs choose to distribute via Steam, promote it with a 50% off sale, it goes to the Steam front page, sells 500,000 copies at only $10 each, for a total $5 million in revenue. Steam takes $1.5 million and the devs take $3.5 million.

In scenario 2 the devs make 75% more than in scenario 1. Did Valve steal from the game devs?

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

A steam account being un-inheritable, making you defacto a tenant of your games

Can’t you just give your kids your steam password ? How would they notice ?

I'm not sure about that either - unless you really want your real name on a Steam account, you just change the password and the payment method and you should be fine, right?

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

You can't change the login username. That's about it. You can change the profile link, profile name, avatar and other cosmetics, and edit payment methods.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

A steam account being un-inheritable, making you defacto a tenant of your games

This is unenforceable under US Law

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Not to mention his insane Porsche collection, yeah he's just another billionaire

Valve ruined my favourite game (dota) by flooding the game with ridiculous cosmetics that even change particle effects with no way to disable any of this

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