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(This is just a smug anecdote because I rarely get the opportunity to do so in Hellworld-on-Sea)
People were talking about the Starmer government seeming to be following the Trump one 'a bit too closely on some things' in the pub this weekend and I pointed out it was much more than that. It's on almost everything.
On slashing government, on foreign policy, on welfare demonisation, on AI boondoggles, on deportation & immigration, on the prosecution of protesters and anti-genocide activists, begging for tarrif excemptions in exchange for cutting all tax on American tech companies instead of arguing against them, and on and on.
Even the still active Labour people (including an assistant to an MP) were basically like, 'yeah, that's depressingly true but what else are we gonna do' (faux, there is no alternative self-pitying bullshit naturally) instead of even trying to fight the point or do the party line.
I was kind of surprised how fucking deep in the toilet even their morale is apparently.
In fact, they only got a little bit indignant when I concluded by pointing out that the major difference between the Starmer admin and Trump's is that Trump is still popular with his base and Starmer's got exactly fuck all.
Even then they didn't have much will to push back beyond some harrumphing and 'come on now'.
I enjoyed it tremendously.
I want to see their posts from the time around the Corbyn purge.
Supporters were mostly oblivious, 'Keir seems like a man of his word' types who reacted like I was telling them Santa Claus was a member of the Bilderberg Group when I would mention his craven, shady, intelligence-linked wrecker career before joining the Corbyn leadership.
The two active career Labour guys (including the assistant) weren't full
Corbyn is a terrorist, but we're definitely 'the public agrees he's too divisive and radical' type wreckers who consistently put the boot in but stopped short of the more extreme stuff in case it the party takeover didn't work out. Ghouls-lite basically.
They are extremely full of shit and while I've gotten into it with a bit in the past, I was happy to just turn the screw a little bit and bask in their misery for once while grinning into my pint.