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MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
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No, it's when you kill civilians or commit any number of atrocities listed out in the Geneva convention. You know, like Russia has done.
The fascist capitalist dictatorship is Russia.
They're pointing out the hypocrisy of tankies saying they are anti-capitalist but then shill for capitalist oligarchies and dictatorships like Russia, China, and North Korea. (Actually NK isn't capitalist but the others are)
Holy shit, I cannot wrap my head around that logic. I've existed in a bubble where people around me are generally of the stance that fuck tankies. So the whole tankie culture is new to me and I'm learning some interesting stuff.
I don't know about Russia, but in China and North Korea, everything is owned by the state. It's communism, by definitionm
China has a stock market and investment banks. You can only have an investor class when everyone is not getting the full value of their labor. If everyone isn’t getting the full value of their labor you are not socialist.
Getting the full value of labor has never been a part of any system ever. Where did you get that idea?
Correct. Communism has never been allowed to succeed. Either it's been co-opted by fascists and dictators from within, or it's been crushed by the CIA from outside. Many small attempts have shown great promise, however, before the greedy and powerful slaughtered them.
If it's so easily defeated, don't you think that maybe it's inherently flawed? A good system would account for the greedy and powerful.
Socialism is the state owning the means of production. Communism to supposed to come next where everyone owns. Funny how that never comes to pass once the state actors get rich.