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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago

Hypothetically, would literal tree-hugging (i.e. chaining myself to a tree) be an effective method of protest and prevention? Would the loggers cut me down anyways? Just a random thought.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 5 days ago

You're gonna get labeled a terrorist and probably shot

The way to go is in the monkey wrenching book (forgot the full name:

You take steel bars, and cut them to size

Then you remove a piece of bark

Drill a hole into the tree

Put the steel rod in

Glue the bark back on

Do it at eye level-ish, that way you're not hurting the worker with a snapping chain, instead damaging the lumber mill. Bigger damage anyways

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago
[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago

"Ecodefense: A Field Guide to Monkeywrenching" was the name

[-] pyr0ball@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

What do we use when they start checking the trees with metal detectors?

I don't think cinder blocks would work as well

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

If anything that’s time wasted having to check every tree. Makes their big tree harvesters slow way down

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

That's actually addressed in the book as well, you can get hardened ceramic rods that work even better, they're just a bit more expensive

[-] KittyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Iron bars are the old fashioned way, the modern method is a granite or concrete rod, not quite as good as iron but it'll still fuck up a saw good

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

There are groups already doing the work. Look them up!

For example, BARK Out! Is active around Mt Hood in Oregon.

[-] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago

Depends on what you mean by "effective." It might delay them for a few hours or a day. There's a long history of this kind of thing, although it's usually more effective to do a treesit rather than a lockdown for trees. You could do a lockdown on equipment like bulldozers/feller bunchers though. The Earth First! Direct Action Manual has a lot of info.

Be prepared to be literally tortured in various ways, including pepperspray placed directly in your eyes, pain compliance holds, or they just cut the chains/lockbox you're in and if you get cut with it too bad.

Personally I'm not a big fan of get-arrested-on-purpose types of direct action, but it has its uses. I strongly recommend that if you're going to do something like this you connect with a group that knows how to do it and you have a support crew, including jail/legal support.

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago

what a fascinating read!

[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Is there a such thing as pepper spray resistant eyewear?

[-] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sure, lab safety goggles will protect you from pepper spray in most instances. But what eye protection you're wearing won't matter. You're chained to a tree. The cops can do literally anything they want to you, including ripping your safety glasses off and emptying a can of pepper spray directly in your eyes. See: the infamous case of the Pepper Spray 8

Deputies pepper sprayed Mike McCurdy (above) and Noel Tendick directly in the eyes at close range while they were locked together through the tracks of a Pacific Lumber bulldozer on an old-growth redwood logging site. The activists endured the torture and did not unlock. Deputies then safely cut them loose with a portable grinder, as they could have done without using pepper spray, and as they had done hundreds of times in previous years.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago

Trees have been saved by people camping in them.

[-] punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 days ago

That relies on the loggers fearing a murder charge. In Trump's America, would a logger be charged with murder for "accidentally" killing a tree hugging protestor?

[-] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago

Treesitters have been killed by loggers before and didn't face murder charges iirc. They are probably more worried about wrongful death suits.

[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 4 points 5 days ago

Sure would be a shame if the equipment kept experiencing catastrophic failure.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

They were defending themselves against domestic terrorists /s (but actually just cynicism)

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

maybe flying too close to the sun here but don't sacrifice yourself for your beliefs in a way that won't make effective change.

there are other, more valuable targets if you're willing to spend your life on a cause.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Just spike the trees.

this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2025
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