I've been telling people, if an admin defeds lemmygrad for some smarmy ass lying complete libshit reasons like Ada did, you should have 0 (zero) confidence that she or any other admin who does the same will be willing to engage y'all in good faith and actually work to change their instance, there isn't a single reason to defed lemmygrad that couldn't also be used to defed Hexbear for other than maybe lemmygrad is more sectatarian but that makes up maybe 1% of the content on our comms, or maybe that it's not as outwardly pro-trans*, but then again it's also the only instance in the threadiverse that I'm aware of that specifically makes you give your view on gender as part of it's application to weed out transphobes before they can even make an account (I'm not even sure how many instances even still use applications).
Brigading? I've seen more links dropped in hexbear threads in the like 2 weeks y'all have been federated than I did in 3 months on lemmygrad
Trolling? Y'all literally have an emote of a fucking pig shitting on its own testicles, what trolling can lemmygrad even conjure to compare to that
"being ok with wishing death on the people of Nato" this is the most baffling one, y'all literally have an emote dedicated to this kind of comment that has a nuke symbol and says "Please, Xi" that's used to say that the entirety of the west should be nuked and destroyed which is the exact same of comments made on lemmygrad just without the emote, and that's just the ones that use that emote in particular.
It may look like I'm saying I told you so because, well, I am, I told you so. I would be extremely surprised if that shithead of a mod gets removed, I put it at about the same chances as blahaj refederating with lemmygrad (so never, lol).
*I'm sure lemmygrad could be better in some way about this, but at the same time 11% of our users were trans when we did a survey 2 months ago, which I hope means that it's generally still a good, safe instance for our trans comrades (P.S. WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES)
Edit: some further evidence of shit lib behavior, when she originally defederated lemmygrad it's not like she put effort to remain federated like y'all did, she dropped 2 (two) comments deep in some random ass thread where she called us tankies, this person was never going to put in the same kind of effort that y'all were going to, forgot about this until after I made the post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 their instance is struggling so here's a screenshot if you can't load them
how deep of a cut from the reddit lore do you want? like 1 sentence or the full story?
Maybe one or two paragraphs? I don't want you to burn too much time/energy on this.
In the beginning, there was r/195
it was started by some random dude in college that made the subreddit as a shitposting community specifically for people in the dorm, which had the number "195" on it. It eventually escaped its intended audience and massively grew in popularity, and the rule was that you had to post before you leave, and so it just became an incredibly random shitpost subreddit.
Eventually, the original creator decided he didn't want to deal with actually moderating it anymore since it was never actually intended to grow that popular, and so he shut it down much to the dismay of its users. So, r/196 was created to replace it (because 195+1=196).
It's unclear to me if it was originally like this or just became this way over time, but r/196 became one of the most pro trans places on reddit. However, it had a scourge brewing. Slowly but surely, it began to be taken over by chasers and just general hornyposting, and just generally by V*ushites with all the "ebil tankie!?!?" posting, because teenagers overwhelmingly used that place and that's the kind of discourse you might expect to see when a place is overwhelmingly used by teenagers, so r/19684 was created to purge the hornyposting which got rid of a lot of the chasers as well.
So, what seperates these subs from a general meme sub? Not that much, other than because of the circumstances of their creation they're far more trans-inclusive and less outright reactionary than the the meme subs you normally see on reddit like r/memes or r/dankmemes, But also generally the posting is generally even more derivative and more unhinged on places like r/196 than like r/memes because r/memes at least attempts to put some guidelines forth about quality control but there's nothing like that in the r/195 style places.
Hope that helps
Yeah, it was weird watching r/196 turn from a place that would call out V to a place that had unironic V stan posts. Initially the red scare stuff seemed pretty sparse but grew over time, and is worse on the Lemmy side than on the sub even.
I'm just wondered if it was the result of moderation changes, or population shifts. Could just be V-ites moving into the place. I swear in the last few years though, there seems to be a conscious effort to move trans communities out actual leftist thinking into liberal thinking. It could just be driven by fear around SCOTUS and state level politics in the US, but it just seems like such a marked shift.
another user commented that the change happened virtually overnight and within two weeks it was a totally different place. smells like fed shit.
yeah, it was pretty quick. Felt organized, but that could be a lot of things. DNC outreach ops to influencers, who nudge viewers, who move into spaces in an organized way could look the same.
Doesn't matter really how it happened, so who cares? Even if it's completely organic, it means leftists were out organized by some sort of liberal. It doesn't take much organizing to influencing to change small spaces and libs are apparently doing the work that we aren't. And it's not limited to 196.
Thanks
I should mention there's more lore that I've never bothered to look into, like why is there a r/197? don't really know, and I've already put too much time browsing through threads trying to piece together answers while
ors do that annoying shit where they think they're comedy geniuses for giving joke replies to people asking serious questions and then never actually giving an answer, maybe I wouldn't mind spending more time looking all this up because internet lore like this is kinda fun to read about, if 
ors stopped being such dorks and making it so much harder than it needs to be. I know there have been like mod team overthrows on r/195 related subreddits when ML's try to make their own versions of those subs, and then overthrowing modteams in response, etc. etc.
I know @Awoo@hexbear.net has been pretty involved with moderating a lot of ML subreddits over the years so I bet she might know more about that specific drama that I'm talking about
it's gotta be for the same reason there was a /r/chapotraphouse2_2_2 or whatever, right? because somebody thought it was funny?
I think maybe it's for people who didn't like the environment of r/196 so probably transphobes? I don't really know though
I honestly know very little about the behind the scenes of 196. Their group is insular and has never participated in almost any of the common backrooms, and I've not been personally involved in any dramas related to them so.
My understanding of 195 was just that they closed after getting to a certain subscriber number.
Sorry I can't be of more help. I basically gave up on the space due to anticommunism, any space with anticommunism has always become fash-adjacent, it's just a matter of time. So I didn't waste my time with any of it.
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if this is a bot account could you mark it as a bot account please?
Oh I'm well aware, brocialists must be fought off at all costs
eh won't take that long I'll just go find another comment that I've typed up about this before and clean it up give me a couple minutes lol