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[-] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I love how they never once mention in the article that Republicans wrote the bill, proposed it, and 100% of them voted in favor of it.

But, despite all that...the headline still reads, "Democrats passed it".

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Because we expect that from Republicans. It’s the democrats defecting that is the worrisome part.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that Republicans want to take away peoples' ability to vote isn't really news, but the fact that any Democrats supported it is.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

the fact that any Democrats supported it is

No one paying attention would have expected anything different. Its been 13 years since the VRA was struck down and democrats have done nothing meaningful, other than fundraise, off protecting voting rights. Doing nothing is worse than taking rights.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Doing nothing is worse than taking rights.

No, the latter is absolutely still worse.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Silence is complicity

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

It fucking should be news, and anyone trying to shift blame to Democrats is a goddamn shill.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To be fair it has been news, for the 20+ years they've been doing it. When I say 'it's not news' I don't mean 'it's not newsworthy' - it absolutely is - just that it should not be surprising to anyone, so focusing on democrat support for it is definitely the bigger deal and should definitely be the headline. Those 4 democrats are not 'to blame' for this, it would have passed anyway, but their complicity with fascism should absolutely be reported and remembered.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

Not when it eclipses the actual fascism. I agree it's worth reporting and remembering but not to the exclusion of the main bastards behind this shit.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It wasn't to the exclusion of. The article clearly mentions that every Republican voted for it IIRC. But headlines can only be so long and you have to lead with something. The 20th time you use 'look, the fascists are fashing again!' it's just not going to draw people in to read the article and find out, not about the 200-odd traitors we knew about which is important to know but we already know it, but the 4 who we didn't know were traitors.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Four Democrats Pass Bill Making It Harder for Married Women to Vote

  • propaganda

Four Democrats Join Republicans to Pass Bill Making It Harder for Married Women to Vote

  • accurate, and still drives engagement
[-] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You know what, that's fair. And that's a more informative/less ragebaity headline in general anyway.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, you're right that Republicans taking away people's rights should be news. It should be the topmost article on a newspaper.

Right under that though should be the news about how the supposed opposition party caved in to the Republicans by agreeing and voting in favor, thereby increasing the Republicans' effective party size in the House.

Democratic representatives not representing their constituents should be news, but of course that news is as old as printing itself, much longer.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

the supposed opposition party caved

FOUR. Out of fucking 213. Saying "the Democratic party" did this is fucking propaganda.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans tell us who they are, so theres no need to point out what theyve already told us. Democrats however always claim to hold the high ground as if they are not collaborators in regressive legislation.

[-] Archangel1313@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

So the trick to getting away with doing shit like this is to just be open about it? Weird. If that was the case, then why not give these Democrats a pass, as well? They aren't exactly hiding it either.

Or are you just getting these four mixed up with the 200 others that didn't support this legislation?

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

These are the Democrats that will replace Manchin and Semina as the rotating villains once they come back into power.

'We tried, but look what Cuellar did'

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was thinking the same. Like what? 6 dudes didn't pass the bill, half of your representatives did.

[-] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When are you doing to hold these fucking pro-Trump Democrats accountable? So such of the constant whining and crying every time the Democrats are called out on their bullshit.

[-] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm fine calling out the 2% of Democrats that vote against their own constituents interests. But what I find hilarious, is the total lack of focus on the fact that 100% of Republicans are behind this.

This is what Chomsky was talking about when he wrote manufacturing consent. The framing here is massively deceptive, to the point of being completely backwards...and folks just eat it up this way. They swallow this narrative whole, and spit it back up for others to swallow.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

What's Anyone doing to hold Republicans accountable?

The headline should read 216 Republicans ensured passage of this bill.

My God, part of everything we deal with these days is no one holds Republicans accountable. Media, voters, commenters, etc. Maybe try that for once instead of focusing on 4 Democrats who DON'T MATTER.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago

They never will. They will defend them because even when they vote in agreement with stripping the rights of Americans because of Trump, they're on the blue team, so it's always valid and justified.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Actually only 216 Republicans voted Yea, 4 of them didn't vote at all, and 0 Nay but yes you're 100% right that the GOP should own this and the DNC are the resistance.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans wanting to ban women from voting isn't really news.

[-] spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

It really shouldn't be news, but remember....there are most likely a lot of morons out there who would still be shocked to hear about it. The ones who don't like to talk or read about politics, the uninformed voter. These are Americans we're talking about.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Those people aren't on Lemmy and they aren't reading New Republic articles.

The morons who would be shocked by this news are other Republicans that only consume Republican news sources.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense. "Democrats" is fair. Not all Democrats, but the party establishment is rotten.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense

Who fucking cares what the establishment says. The nominees is whoever won the primary vote.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

Which, far too often, is whomever has the most money. The Democratic establishment and AIPAC have successfully flooded progressives out in several races. It's not that we can't win, but it's clear that the party is against us, which was my point. It's not just a handful of shitty Democrats we need to replace.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The Democratic establishment and AIPAC have successfully flooded progressives out in several races

At the end of the day, those progressives lost because the voters went the other way. Either there are enough progressive voters in a district or there aren't. If there are, then they just need to go out and vote and then the money and PACs can get fucked.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Honest question, if those four hadn't voted for it, would the bill have failed?

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It passed 220-208, so no it wouldn't have changed anything.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

so the site wrote a shitty headline just to get clicks? nah, that never happens.

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